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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

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IwantToRetire · 25/03/2025 22:38

The Trump administration is planning to freeze tens of millions of dollars in federal grants to organizations providing family planning and other reproductive health services, as it reviews whether the funds violate the president’s order to cease all government-backed diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) work.

A Health and Human Services spokesperson told The Wall Street Journal, which reported on the plan, that the department was reviewing grants to make sure they complied with the crackdown on DEI.

The freeze to the Title X program could impact as much as $120 million worth of grants to a network of roughly 4,000 clinics providing free and discounted pregnancy testing, contraception, sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing and treatment, and evaluations and testing for infertility.

Planned Parenthood, whose affiliates could lose roughly $20 million if the paused grants are ultimately cut, reacted with alarm.

“The Trump-Vance-Musk administration wants to shut down Planned Parenthood health centers by any means necessary, and they’ll end people’s access to birth control, cancer screenings, STI testing and treatment, and more to do it,” Planned Parenthood Federation of America CEO Alex McGill Johnson told the newspaper.

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

Change could impact thousands of clinics providing contraception and sexually transmitted infection testing

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

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withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 15:27

Surely anyone who is having their puberty blocked is, by definition, a child

Datun · 03/04/2025 15:30

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 15:27

Surely anyone who is having their puberty blocked is, by definition, a child

Quite. It's my understanding that puberty has to have started, and hormones have to start to be released, in order for you to block it. If they're not released, you're not blocking anything. There'll be no point in giving blockers to a baby.

But that's it. It just has to have started. Hair growing, breast buds, etc.

PippistrelleBat · 03/04/2025 15:38

MessinaBloom · 03/04/2025 13:30

You can’t imply that someone’s a child abuser because you don’t like their argument and want to shut them down. That’s bloody awful!^^

Sterilising children with PB and cross sex hormones is child abuse.

Calling children ‘young people’ is done over and over because lobbyists want to obscure their fact that they are children and need extra protections, that they do not have the capacity of adults and are not able to consent to treatment or exposure to sexual materials. LBGTQ+ groups have been found repeatedly to be bringing unacceptable materials into school or exposing children to inappropriate sexual behaviours. Be it the Proud Dice game, books for preschoolers featuring bondage gear, arts shows, dressed as monkeys with dildos in libraries, or Scottish Government sex surveys. ‘Young people’ is used because they know if they said ‘children’ people would recognise their inability to consent.

sanluca · 03/04/2025 15:38

Datun · 03/04/2025 14:00

I was under the impression that puberty blockers were administered at tanner stage two. which is the definition of children, by anyone's standards.

Best start for boys is stage 2, as testosteron has a big effect on a body and the whole idea of pb is to ensure trans people can look better as the sex they want to be (passing).
Pb do nothing for girls as they just remain child like and not even cross sex hormones can make them look male height and hip wise. Pb do destroy bones, especially female ones.

So puberty blockers are ALWAYS for children

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 15:53

Do the feminists who prioritise women over children not include female children in their feminism?

borntobequiet · 03/04/2025 16:15

MessinaBloom · 03/04/2025 13:14

Please stop using the word “children”.

UNICEF defines a child as anyone under the age of 18, in the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

The UK government defines a child as anyone who has not yet reached their 18th birthday, in line with the above.

It seems odd to dispute the meaning of the word, or to require others not to use it correctly.

TheGentleOpalMember · 03/04/2025 17:06

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 14:34

I prioritise women. I am a feminist.
Who would you personally prioritise?

So you prioritise adults over vulnerable innocent children. Thank you for admitting that.

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 17:09

Datun · 03/04/2025 15:27

Is there any part of you that thinks he could have stopped funding immediately, pending a review, in order to wake them up. And then if they said okay we will stop treating gender confused children, he reinstates it.

Or do you genuinely believe he wouldn't do anything of the sort, and that's the end of state funding of Planned Parenthood, irrespective of whether they adhere to his requests.

No. Many of the organisations whose funds are being stopped don't provide any sort of trans care or services to men. They exist solely for women. This is a funding freeze of $120million for women's services.

The fact that PP provide trans stuff is a happy coincidence for the Trump administration. Even if PP closed its doors tomorrow, the cuts to women's services will happen. Also, PP is massive, they may survive this. Smaller organisations won't.

It's a scary time for many women in the US atm and it hasn't even been 100 days of Trump.Sad

TheGentleOpalMember · 03/04/2025 17:11

MessinaBloom · 03/04/2025 13:11

You know I was objecting to the term “children”.

As for PBs, anyone starting them needs to have entered puberty already. They suppress a puberty that has already begun. So, the general age of starting is mid-late teens. Again, parental permission is still required.

Do you have a link though for this particular claim? The PP site says they don’t prescribe PB to anyone under 16.

Re: your fictitious 12-year-old, I hoping you could think laterally and consider the wider consequences to a community of losing services like this. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Puberty blockers are designed to stop puberty starting. Yes they use them throughout the puberty timeframe, but the original point of them is to use them prior to puberty to stop it beginning. Which is 10-12 (sometimes earlier than 10).

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 17:12

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 15:53

Do the feminists who prioritise women over children not include female children in their feminism?

I 100% include girls in my feminism. Those girls will be women some day, they deserve the rights that past feminists won for them.

TheGentleOpalMember · 03/04/2025 17:13

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 17:09

No. Many of the organisations whose funds are being stopped don't provide any sort of trans care or services to men. They exist solely for women. This is a funding freeze of $120million for women's services.

The fact that PP provide trans stuff is a happy coincidence for the Trump administration. Even if PP closed its doors tomorrow, the cuts to women's services will happen. Also, PP is massive, they may survive this. Smaller organisations won't.

It's a scary time for many women in the US atm and it hasn't even been 100 days of Trump.Sad

The fact that PP provide trans stuff is a happy coincidence for the Trump administration.

And whose fault is that? PP for sterilising and chemically castrating children. If they didn't do that, the funding wouldn't be touched.

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 17:16

TheGentleOpalMember · 03/04/2025 17:13

The fact that PP provide trans stuff is a happy coincidence for the Trump administration.

And whose fault is that? PP for sterilising and chemically castrating children. If they didn't do that, the funding wouldn't be touched.

Wrong. The funding is being stopped regardless. It's being stopped because it's going to women.

TheGentleOpalMember · 03/04/2025 17:17

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 17:16

Wrong. The funding is being stopped regardless. It's being stopped because it's going to women.

Edited

It's under DEI. Trans includes this. Abortion and health services do not.

borntobequiet · 03/04/2025 17:21

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 17:12

I 100% include girls in my feminism. Those girls will be women some day, they deserve the rights that past feminists won for them.

How can you be sure, when they might become men? Isn’t that a teeny bit transphobic?

illinivich · 03/04/2025 17:33

TheGentleOpalMember · 03/04/2025 17:11

Puberty blockers are designed to stop puberty starting. Yes they use them throughout the puberty timeframe, but the original point of them is to use them prior to puberty to stop it beginning. Which is 10-12 (sometimes earlier than 10).

The point is that they stop puberty progressing.

Ironically, for gender dysphoria, they wait until puberty has started, to ensure that development is normal and they aren't missing or covering up any problems in sexual development health. Then block puberty and eventually give wrong sex hormones, ensuring that development is definitely messed up.

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 17:47

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 17:12

I 100% include girls in my feminism. Those girls will be women some day, they deserve the rights that past feminists won for them.

But you prioritise the women over the girls, right? Abortion access for women over the prevention of harm to girls? Just trying to understand your position

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 17:47

TheGentleOpalMember · 03/04/2025 17:17

It's under DEI. Trans includes this. Abortion and health services do not.

It's under DEI. In case you havent noticed the sex class women fall under DEI. Womens services are being cut because they're women's services. Women's accomplishments are being erased from records because of DEI. Women are losing their jobs because of DEI. Women and girls will lose their lives because of Trump's purge of what he sees as DEI.

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 17:53

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 17:47

But you prioritise the women over the girls, right? Abortion access for women over the prevention of harm to girls? Just trying to understand your position

This is not about abortion access. This is about women's and girls rights to life saving services.

To pit one against the other is manipulative, abusive and damaging to all.

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 17:57

life saving services
By which you mean....?

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 18:04

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 17:57

life saving services
By which you mean....?

Contraception.
Pregnancy monitoring.
STD testing.
Advice on addiction support.
Breastfeeding feeding.
Help with DV.
Research into DV during pregnancy.
Help for girls experiencing child sex abuse.
Pre and postnatal health.

And more.

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 18:10

So not abortion?

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 18:12

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 18:10

So not abortion?

You already covered abortion so I didn't think I needed to include it.

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 18:17

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/04/2025 18:12

You already covered abortion so I didn't think I needed to include it.

But you said This is not about abortion access

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 03/04/2025 18:31

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/04/2025 13:23

I consider the distaste for the word “children” referencing minor human beings entering adolescence, as obfuscation which enables and conceals potentially harmful practices most people would naturally have a negative view on. As indeed they do.

This

its weird…not just on this board

withthegreatestrespect · 03/04/2025 19:08

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5228623-trump-restoring-millions-in-family-planning-funds/

IANAAmerican, so I don't pretend to have a deep understanding of the system and the issues, but it seems that US politicians of both stripes use funding as a weapon.

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