A real life account of missing puberty

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This is a very revealing interview with James Linehan, a man who didn’t experience natural puberty because of his DSD I
Essentially, he was passive, obedient and childlike while his peers went through the normal adolescent stages. He didn’t care that he wasn’t like his peers- he just wanted to play with his toys and so he hung out with younger kids. It’s hard to describe the impact this interview has on me. Really extraordinary

Thanks for posting this.

Wow. Thanks for posting. That was incredibly eye-opening.

Why on earth is Dr Cass recommending a PB trial??! There is no way this could ever be ethical.

That’s what I thought @BettyBooper !! Insane

I have now watched it and it is definitely worth it to get that first person perspective. All the description about being a teenager but childlike in thinking and therefore very suggestable and malleable was very concerning. There was also a point about people who haven't been through a natural puberty 'not finding anger' about things they should be angry about that was worrying.

Yes and to add, the suggestion that many detransition due to medical problems but still don't find their anger as they haven't been through natural puberty.

Are the claims re fertility true? It made sense as explained but it would be useful to get more info on this. As presented, this is truly horrifying.

Thank you so much for posting.

I've just finished watching it and it's incredible to listen to it.

A couple of quotes that leapt out, from towards the end (I hope I've remembered them properly):

1. The medical profession is "walking out of knowledge and into ignorance"

2. Regarding children who have had their puberty blocked "part of their humanity has been taken away from them".

Point 2 relates to the lack of anger that is commented on above.

I think lots of people on this board are aware that stopping/blocking puberty means that brain development doesn't happen, but hearing what that feels like first hand is quite the eye opener. I'm struck by what he said about simply wanting to play with He Man toys and then the radical change over 6 months when he finally got the correct hormones for his body. Our cells are all "sexed", so they need the right hormones (ideally at the right time - so that we don't miss development windows). But if someone gets the wrong sexed hormones at the right time, all bets are off... it really is a live human experiment. Obviously posters on this board have known this stuff for a long time but there's something about this interview that really hammers that point home. It's Mary Shelley's Frankenstein and Mengele combined - these doctors are simply creating something new (a new kind of human) and don't have any need to worry about whether this works or not.

I remember seeing another film about a man whose puberty did not kick in properly - the growth hormone part obviously did because he was very tall. He didn't get any testosterone treatment until he was in his 20s.

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Found it!

https://www.thecut.com/2019/01/precocious-puberty-patrick-burleigh.html
From an opposite perspective, this is a story of a man who went through puberty too early.

I did read another account, in a newspaper, which was far more relaxed and less clinical from someone who had this hereditary condition, whose father was very helpful - I think he was from Mexico? But I can't find it at the moment.

They both describe early anti-social behaviour and risk taking behaviour.

Thanks Melroses.

Well fucking hell this made me cry knowing this has now been intentionally done to so many children and young people.

And BonfireLady's comment "but if someone gets the wrong sexed hormones at the right time, all bets are off" - yes. Reminds me of Jazz Jennings, who was stopped from going through male puberty and then given oestrogen.

Seeing him now as an adult "dating" - in particular at the end of one date they showed him and his date kissing. Jazz described it as 'no chemistry', but he looked like I'd have looked if you'd made me kiss a boy when I was at primary school - that "euugh, why would anyone do this?" feeling. And Jazz then saying he hasn't found males or females he's attracted to, so maybe he's asexual, maybe he's pansexual etc.

that’s so sad. So society/his mother are expecting him to date now he’s “of age” but his brain/body has no interest due to never having gone through puberty. Fucking hell someone take him off the cameras so he can finally live his own life