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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

From Midwife to Lead Perinatal Practitioner: A Utopian Vision

42 replies

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 16/03/2025 09:48

Is this paper scheduled for publication at the beginning of next month? Or are they serious?

https://pure.northampton.ac.uk/en/publications/from-midwife-to-lead-perinatal-practitioner-a-utopian-vision

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theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 16/03/2025 09:52

Oh no. He's serious!

https://pure.northampton.ac.uk/en/persons/john-leslie-pendleton

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Shortshriftandlethal · 16/03/2025 09:53

That's deep into Mary Harrington's 'Meat Suit' territory.

Where people become so alienated from their bodies that they are perceived just as costumes - randomly assembled from a series of interchangeable body parts.

"We argue that when combined, they signal a trailblazing contribution towards the eradication of gender inequalities in the reproductive arena by uncoupling the profession from patriarchal oppression inscribed in the sex/gender binary which has hitherto been positioned as the sine qua non of midwifery'

Being female is equated with "subjugation by the patriarchy". ( only males with a kink for submission would want to be perceived as one)

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/03/2025 09:56

We argue that when combined, they signal a trailblazing contribution towards the eradication of gender inequalities in the reproductive arena by uncoupling the profession from patriarchal oppression inscribed in the sex/gender binary which has hitherto been positioned as the sine qua non of midwifery.

ah yes, it’s deffo the patriarchy’s fault that only women have babies.

GET A PROPER JOB JOHN AND SALLY. Really, there must be something else you could be getting on with

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/03/2025 09:58

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 16/03/2025 09:52

This man is a senior midwife......whose purpose seems to be to alienate women from their own bodies.

"t is the first to explore how a marginal number of men in an otherwise mono-gendered profession make sense of their experiences. Filtered through the lens of gender, it seeks to understand how they navigate a space where they are neither wanted, needed, or deemed unproblematically acceptable to either service users or the profession as a whole. ..."

Igmum · 16/03/2025 10:01

Oh FFS 🤦‍♀️. The erasure of women continues.

RoyalCorgi · 16/03/2025 10:02

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/03/2025 09:58

This man is a senior midwife......whose purpose seems to be to alienate women from their own bodies.

"t is the first to explore how a marginal number of men in an otherwise mono-gendered profession make sense of their experiences. Filtered through the lens of gender, it seeks to understand how they navigate a space where they are neither wanted, needed, or deemed unproblematically acceptable to either service users or the profession as a whole. ..."

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The use of the word "needed" is an interesting admission, isn't it?

withthegreatestrespect · 16/03/2025 10:08

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/03/2025 09:58

This man is a senior midwife......whose purpose seems to be to alienate women from their own bodies.

"t is the first to explore how a marginal number of men in an otherwise mono-gendered profession make sense of their experiences. Filtered through the lens of gender, it seeks to understand how they navigate a space where they are neither wanted, needed, or deemed unproblematically acceptable to either service users or the profession as a whole. ..."

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They 'navigate the space' by doing whatever the fuck they want. They're men.

FlowchartRequired · 16/03/2025 10:12

I briefly looked at his other papers too.

pure.northampton.ac.uk/en/publications/gender-inclusive-language-in-midwifery-and-perinatal-services-a-g

This delightful abstract says "Effective communication in relation to pregnancy and birth is crucial to quality care. A recent focus in reproductive healthcare on “sexed language” reflects an ideology of unchangeable sex-binary and fear of erasure, from both cisgender women and the profession of midwifery.

In this paper, we highlight how privileging sexed language causes harm to all who birth—including pregnant trans, gender diverse, and non-binary people—and is therefore unethical and incompatible with the principles of midwifery. We show how this argument, which conflates midwifery with essentialist thinking, is unstable, and perpetuates and misappropriates midwifery’s marginalized status.

We also explore how sex and gender essentialism can be understood as colonialist, heteropatriarchal, and universalist, and therefore reinforcing of these harmful principles. Midwifery has both the opportunity and duty to uphold reproductive justice. Midwifery can be a leader in the decolonization of childbirth and in defending the rights of all childbearing people, the majority of whom are cisgender women.

As the systemwide use of inclusive language is central to this commitment, we offer guidance in relation to how inclusive language in perinatal and midwifery services may be realised."

withthegreatestrespect · 16/03/2025 10:24

decolonization of childbirth

I suspect that this is preparing the ground for ending the recording of sex at birth. Children then get to choose their GI at some later point. The more autonomy you give children the easier it will be to remove that pesky legal age of consent eventually.

drspouse · 16/03/2025 10:29

withthegreatestrespect · 16/03/2025 10:24

decolonization of childbirth

I suspect that this is preparing the ground for ending the recording of sex at birth. Children then get to choose their GI at some later point. The more autonomy you give children the easier it will be to remove that pesky legal age of consent eventually.

I was actually going to say it's going towards stopping those peaky parents from having a say in the children's upbringing. But you could be right.

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/03/2025 10:32

withthegreatestrespect · 16/03/2025 10:24

decolonization of childbirth

I suspect that this is preparing the ground for ending the recording of sex at birth. Children then get to choose their GI at some later point. The more autonomy you give children the easier it will be to remove that pesky legal age of consent eventually.

Yes, and it is a further part of the pursuit towards disembodied 'identities' in which the body is simply a vehicle for self expression...and that 'self' is utterly disconnected from material or earthly reality. Transhumanism in otherwords.

He has some nerve to talk about 'colonisation' and patriarchal ownership of pregnancy and childbirth. The newborn/the child is also referred to in non human terms, as a " neonate".

withthegreatestrespect · 16/03/2025 10:34

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/03/2025 10:32

Yes, and it is a further part of the pursuit towards disembodied 'identities' in which the body is simply a vehicle for self expression...and that 'self' is utterly disconnected from material or earthly reality. Transhumanism in otherwords.

He has some nerve to talk about 'colonisation' and patriarchal ownership of pregnancy and childbirth. The newborn/the child is also referred to in non human terms, as a " neonate".

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Yes, a movement this powerful is not being driven by some confused kids and their #BeKind handmaidens.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 16/03/2025 10:35

This is not related to the thread but I thought it worth adding simple because it shows the mindset that has captured the Midwifery profession (all over the modern world), possible because of numpties writing papers like the one mentioned on the thread.

From the ruling by the panel - it's promoting the lie about sex being a 'spectrum'. Medical and biological understanding says there are 2 sexes, it's only a batshit crazy political ideology that has nothing to do with medical science or biology that doesn't.

'The Panel understands that the statement that there are only two sexes – female and male – is an oversimplification that does not align with current medical or biological understanding.'

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 16/03/2025 10:37

A man so hostile to women and the language of birth and maternity care should be nowhere near pregnant women / policy about maternity care. It's a relief that he's no longer practising (and there may be some interesting evidence if probing was to be done).
Sadly he's got himself into a position of power where he's able to pursue his fantasies about removing women and women's language from maternity care.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 16/03/2025 10:39

The Telegraph are reporting on this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/15/saying-midwife-could-upset-transgender-people-medics-warned/

Archive link: https://archive.ph/WbK1W

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/03/2025 10:39

Those fake academic papers that Peter Boghossian submitted really did nail this bullshit.

"Over the past 12 months, three scholars—James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, and Peter Boghossian—wrote 20 fake papers using fashionable jargon to argue for ridiculous conclusions, and tried to get them placed in high-profile journals in fields including gender studies, queer studies, and fat studies. Their success rate was remarkable: By the time they took their experiment public late on Tuesday, seven of their articles had been accepted for publication by ostensibly serious peer-reviewed journals. Seven more were still going through various stages of the review process. Only six had been rejected"

withthegreatestrespect · 16/03/2025 10:42

Shortshriftandlethal · 16/03/2025 10:39

Those fake academic papers that Peter Boghossian submitted really did nail this bullshit.

"Over the past 12 months, three scholars—James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, and Peter Boghossian—wrote 20 fake papers using fashionable jargon to argue for ridiculous conclusions, and tried to get them placed in high-profile journals in fields including gender studies, queer studies, and fat studies. Their success rate was remarkable: By the time they took their experiment public late on Tuesday, seven of their articles had been accepted for publication by ostensibly serious peer-reviewed journals. Seven more were still going through various stages of the review process. Only six had been rejected"

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Nailed the bullshit, but seems to have made absolutely no difference to how much of it still gets published.

FlowchartRequired · 16/03/2025 10:49

Sometimes, I wonder if people like Pendleton read Brave New World and saw the vision of babies being grown in bottles, the brainwashing conditioning that the different groups received even as they slept, and the sex-games that the children were encouraged to play as a utopia. It must have completely passed them by that it is a dystopia that ends in the suicide of the character who had been born naturally and hadn't been conditioned.

Helleofabore · 16/03/2025 11:05

RoyalCorgi · 16/03/2025 10:02

The use of the word "needed" is an interesting admission, isn't it?

Yes.

Helleofabore · 16/03/2025 11:08

FlowchartRequired · 16/03/2025 10:12

I briefly looked at his other papers too.

pure.northampton.ac.uk/en/publications/gender-inclusive-language-in-midwifery-and-perinatal-services-a-g

This delightful abstract says "Effective communication in relation to pregnancy and birth is crucial to quality care. A recent focus in reproductive healthcare on “sexed language” reflects an ideology of unchangeable sex-binary and fear of erasure, from both cisgender women and the profession of midwifery.

In this paper, we highlight how privileging sexed language causes harm to all who birth—including pregnant trans, gender diverse, and non-binary people—and is therefore unethical and incompatible with the principles of midwifery. We show how this argument, which conflates midwifery with essentialist thinking, is unstable, and perpetuates and misappropriates midwifery’s marginalized status.

We also explore how sex and gender essentialism can be understood as colonialist, heteropatriarchal, and universalist, and therefore reinforcing of these harmful principles. Midwifery has both the opportunity and duty to uphold reproductive justice. Midwifery can be a leader in the decolonization of childbirth and in defending the rights of all childbearing people, the majority of whom are cisgender women.

As the systemwide use of inclusive language is central to this commitment, we offer guidance in relation to how inclusive language in perinatal and midwifery services may be realised."

Blimey.

RethinkingLife · 16/03/2025 12:30

I await the impact assessment of Implementing such Utopian changes.

Sadly, I’m sure the NMC (Nursing and Midwifery Council) would lap it up. Like the RCN, they’re completely captured.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 16/03/2025 12:52

FlowchartRequired · 16/03/2025 10:12

I briefly looked at his other papers too.

pure.northampton.ac.uk/en/publications/gender-inclusive-language-in-midwifery-and-perinatal-services-a-g

This delightful abstract says "Effective communication in relation to pregnancy and birth is crucial to quality care. A recent focus in reproductive healthcare on “sexed language” reflects an ideology of unchangeable sex-binary and fear of erasure, from both cisgender women and the profession of midwifery.

In this paper, we highlight how privileging sexed language causes harm to all who birth—including pregnant trans, gender diverse, and non-binary people—and is therefore unethical and incompatible with the principles of midwifery. We show how this argument, which conflates midwifery with essentialist thinking, is unstable, and perpetuates and misappropriates midwifery’s marginalized status.

We also explore how sex and gender essentialism can be understood as colonialist, heteropatriarchal, and universalist, and therefore reinforcing of these harmful principles. Midwifery has both the opportunity and duty to uphold reproductive justice. Midwifery can be a leader in the decolonization of childbirth and in defending the rights of all childbearing people, the majority of whom are cisgender women.

As the systemwide use of inclusive language is central to this commitment, we offer guidance in relation to how inclusive language in perinatal and midwifery services may be realised."

His language of dislike for women and midwifery is revealing. It's quite chilling to think that a man who views women in this way has been allowed the privilege of being alongside women giving birth. At their most vulnerable while a man who abuses the language of birth and women is watching them.

Grim.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 16/03/2025 14:10

RoyalCorgi · 16/03/2025 10:02

The use of the word "needed" is an interesting admission, isn't it?

Well spotted — the most honest word in the whole paper!

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 16/03/2025 14:17

This paper proposes an alternative professional title which is inclusive and liberates midwives from continuously reinscribing the sex/gender binary in their nomenclature

Well, that’s a bit of vital research to aid overworked midwives in an overstretched health service, isn’t it?
🙄

maltravers · 16/03/2025 14:30

FlowchartRequired · 16/03/2025 10:12

I briefly looked at his other papers too.

pure.northampton.ac.uk/en/publications/gender-inclusive-language-in-midwifery-and-perinatal-services-a-g

This delightful abstract says "Effective communication in relation to pregnancy and birth is crucial to quality care. A recent focus in reproductive healthcare on “sexed language” reflects an ideology of unchangeable sex-binary and fear of erasure, from both cisgender women and the profession of midwifery.

In this paper, we highlight how privileging sexed language causes harm to all who birth—including pregnant trans, gender diverse, and non-binary people—and is therefore unethical and incompatible with the principles of midwifery. We show how this argument, which conflates midwifery with essentialist thinking, is unstable, and perpetuates and misappropriates midwifery’s marginalized status.

We also explore how sex and gender essentialism can be understood as colonialist, heteropatriarchal, and universalist, and therefore reinforcing of these harmful principles. Midwifery has both the opportunity and duty to uphold reproductive justice. Midwifery can be a leader in the decolonization of childbirth and in defending the rights of all childbearing people, the majority of whom are cisgender women.

As the systemwide use of inclusive language is central to this commitment, we offer guidance in relation to how inclusive language in perinatal and midwifery services may be realised."

God, imagine having this TRA turn up as your midwife and starting to lecture you on your heteronormative and bio-essentialist language while you’re trying to give birth.