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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Matt Walsh comments on Emma Vigeland

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PorcelinaV · 08/03/2025 12:29

I don't know if she would try the "out of context" defence, but her comment looks so heartless and malicious.

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Oblomov25 · 08/03/2025 14:57

"I am interested in the context of her hahahaha comment though so I'll look that up."

@CuriousAlien

That's the main point! How could you have missed that? The volleyball woman brain damaged by a trans player. And trump mentioning her, and saying funding would stop.

Oblomov25 · 08/03/2025 15:02

"about how severe Payton McNabb's injury actually was
Belief that playing sports means you've consented to the risk of injury"

@CuriousAlien

Are you serious?

Yes. Whenever someone plays any sport, you risk injury. True. But you shouldn't have to think about being injured by a man, who is stronger, runs faster than you, hits harder in say boxing,etc.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 08/03/2025 15:12

Oblomov25 · 08/03/2025 15:02

"about how severe Payton McNabb's injury actually was
Belief that playing sports means you've consented to the risk of injury"

@CuriousAlien

Are you serious?

Yes. Whenever someone plays any sport, you risk injury. True. But you shouldn't have to think about being injured by a man, who is stronger, runs faster than you, hits harder in say boxing,etc.

And women cannot consent to the risk of injury by a male in women's sports because the males shouldn't be there. Doubly so when the rules, playing area, or equipment are actually different between the sexes for safety reasons.

A volleyball net has a safety function: preventing "spiking", in which the ball is thrown downwards instead of upwards. A player can put force into a spike that they cannot put into an upwards throw. Think about the difference in speed and force in cricket overhand bowling, which has a downwards element to the trajectory from the start, versus rounders underhand bowling that goes up before falling.

A male volleyball net is seven inches (I think that's about 18cm) higher than a female volleyball net because men are taller than women. The higher net for men stops them spiking each other.

It was a male player's spike to Payton's head, over that lower female net, that paralysed her. Her scream on the video is heartbreaking.

CuriousAlien · 08/03/2025 15:14

I am not trying to defend her comment, nor am I accepting Matt Walsh's definition of her context since he is not a reliable source. What is he selling apart from ground up fruit and vegetables? Outrage and righteousness. I'm not buying.

I am trying to understand her comment so that I can better counter it in a way that brings people on side. That's what I'm here for. I have friends and family who spout twaw.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 08/03/2025 15:16

CuriousAlien · 08/03/2025 15:14

I am not trying to defend her comment, nor am I accepting Matt Walsh's definition of her context since he is not a reliable source. What is he selling apart from ground up fruit and vegetables? Outrage and righteousness. I'm not buying.

I am trying to understand her comment so that I can better counter it in a way that brings people on side. That's what I'm here for. I have friends and family who spout twaw.

I've given the source material as links upthread precisely so that people can evaluate it themselves and make up their own minds.

CuriousAlien · 08/03/2025 15:17

Oblomov25 · 08/03/2025 15:02

"about how severe Payton McNabb's injury actually was
Belief that playing sports means you've consented to the risk of injury"

@CuriousAlien

Are you serious?

Yes. Whenever someone plays any sport, you risk injury. True. But you shouldn't have to think about being injured by a man, who is stronger, runs faster than you, hits harder in say boxing,etc.

Those are not my views, that is me quoting reddit. I believe the people posting that may have been serious but it's reddit so who knows.

CuriousAlien · 08/03/2025 15:19

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 08/03/2025 15:16

I've given the source material as links upthread precisely so that people can evaluate it themselves and make up their own minds.

Yes that's always good. I also had a look at what she had to say about the Cass review on her youtube channel. She may be beyond reason at this point.

wrongthinker · 08/03/2025 15:21

I agree 100% with everything Matt Walsh says about her. I'd say even worse.

AlisonDonut · 08/03/2025 15:26

I think I hate Matt Walsh more than Trump, but her comment was disgusting. I wish people would stop giving him the ability to make him look like the more reasonable person.

CuriousAlien · 08/03/2025 15:50

That's what I'm talking about. He loves to show people disgusting things so he can claim the moral high ground. But what's in it for the other side? The hahahahaha side?

Now I'm wondering if it's like Westboro Baptist Church, the more they disgusted people, the more abuse they received and the more righteous they felt. Maybe some won't ever leave because they're too invested but some might if people actually listen to them so they can point out how false the logic is. Like Megan Phelps Roper. Except this is on a much wider scale and managed to capture healthcare and legislative institutions.

Arran2024 · 08/03/2025 16:04

CuriousAlien · 08/03/2025 15:50

That's what I'm talking about. He loves to show people disgusting things so he can claim the moral high ground. But what's in it for the other side? The hahahahaha side?

Now I'm wondering if it's like Westboro Baptist Church, the more they disgusted people, the more abuse they received and the more righteous they felt. Maybe some won't ever leave because they're too invested but some might if people actually listen to them so they can point out how false the logic is. Like Megan Phelps Roper. Except this is on a much wider scale and managed to capture healthcare and legislative institutions.

I guess she is aiming to be a Katie Hopkins type

Qope · 08/03/2025 16:05

Emma Vigeland is a misogynistic men's rights activist who has proven time and again that she hates women.

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