Appeal on whether NB can be recorded on a GRC - dismissed

[Justme56]

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Castellucci-v-Gender-Recognition-Panel.pdf

“The claimant learnt of a surgical procedure known as penile preservation vaginoplasty, which enables the preservation of the penis while also creating a fully functional vagina. In June 2022 they had a consultation with a surgeon who was based in San Francisco and could do this operation. A date 14 months later was set for the surgery. The surgery was then done in two stages.”

A surgically created dead end hole in your body is not a "fully functional vagina". Can these people not hear themselves?! This is sick.

https://genderblog.net/what-exactly-is-a-neo-vagina-then/

"I was recently contacted by an NHS doctor who is concerned about gender ideology and its capture of his profession. Let’s call him Dr J. Following retirement from full time work, Dr J is currently working in A&E as a locum senior registrar. He trained as a surgeon and is a fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons in Edinburgh.
Dr J has an issue with genital surgery, which he believes is being mis-sold to vulnerable people as a solution to their mental distress. He thinks the term neovagina is “deceptive” and doctors would be better off describing a neovagina as a “deep surgical wound lined with skin” so that patients have a better idea of what they’re getting."

By the wonderful Nick Wallis.

It’s interesting that there has been a lot of discussion about laws recently and the concept of what a reasonable person would think. I wonder what a reasonable person would think about a male who did this. An identity crisis or a sexual kink?

In a way, this attention-seeker got what he wanted. Lots of attention from judges, barristers and medical professionals. All discussing his specialness as someone who feels "no attachment to either masculinity or to femininity" and who has made several alterations to his hairstyle and clothing followed by extreme cosmetic surgery to reflect this special status.

"Look at me, me, me. I'm special."

But finally the judges made the right decision and dismissed his claim to special status which would require a change in the law in a country that he's not even a citizen of.

There's only one function that matters to these people

Thank you for posting this. Very interesting to read how the law is interpreting gender/sex, and how it thinks that 'this man is now a woman' makes sense, but 'this man is neither a man nor a woman' doesn't!

I liked this bit:

48. Furthermore, as Mr Buttler accepts, the concept of “gender” in the GRA, when referred to in the context of the domestic law route, is confined to two genders. Mr Buttler submits that, nevertheless, when used in the context of the foreign law route, the concept of “gender” includes the possibility of a non-binary status. If Mr Buttler were correct, the effect would be that, silently and by a sidewind, Parliament introduced what would otherwise be a fundamental change to the law. [my emphasis]

I like the expression 'silently and by a sidewind', which is exactly what the Irish legislature did by retrospectively replacing the word 'sex' in equality legislation with the word 'gender', thereby introducing 'a fundamental change in the law'. 'silently and by a sidewind'.

His passport will not be renewed with an X by the US State.

He's raised j7st under £90k on CrowdJustice with a £190k stretch target and less than £7k of a £30k target on Gofundme. I have he hasn't been left to foot a massive legal bill. That would be terrible

Is this the end of it?

Functional vagina

From these crowdfunder screen shots it seems that Ryan has at least £85,000 to stump up theyself (but presumably that was before the January 2025 hearing costs were added on?)

(180,000 - 89,000 - 6,000 = Ouch!)

Oh wow. That is a lot of money.

just had a look around online for public comment from Ryan but this vague post on Blue Skye seems to be it thus far:

Interestingly, Ryan seems to have made an attempt to get a fresh ‘X’ marker passport immediately before the US administration change (via the mechanism of adding a new middle name).

Obvs the timing may be purely coincidental but in December US transgender people were advising each other to make cross sex or X passport applications on various Reddit forums (with the intent of getting a new ten year document issued before the end of the Biden Administration, even if their previous ten year passports weren’t expiring any time soon).

This attempt at obtaining a fresh passport was thwarted but according to Ryan this just reverted Ryan to zim’s older X passport (without auto-issuing an M passport).

I’m surprised that the old X one wasn’t rendered invalid as soon as the new X one (since destroyed) was printed but perhaps the US passport office operates differently to HMPO when it comes to issuing a new document?

(I don’t have Blue Skye so cannot open the replies)

(For the purposes of reassuring MNHQ: all of the screenshots I have posted in this thread are from publicly viewable materials. Ryan uses a screen name based on Ryan’s legal name and Ryan’s personal website links directly to various social media accounts so no privacy breaching/doxing is occurring here!)

Interesting. I have met the claimant a few times, he is a neighbour. Going on what he paid for his house and the renovations I don't think he's short of cash. The pictures are interesting too, he looks a great deal less androgynous in the flesh, just a regular long haired bloke (apart from the breasts) in jeans and the kind of frumpy t-shirt that the secretary of the parish council would buy from Bon Marche. I rather wish I'd skipped over the part detailing his genital arrangements though.

The rationale behind the GRA, is that a GRC can (to a limited extent) protect the right to privacy.

Nobody is protecting their privacy by declaring that their sex is 'X'.

I imagine a ‘Tier 1 Global Talent Visa’ indicates a rather high level of earning potential - perhaps Ryan will have enough dosh to take this all the way to the ECHR?

(I live near another prominent transactivist, Zie looks like Meatloaf in a silky blouse)

Not clear on what basis though. There is no human right to have an identity affirmed.

Agreed TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown the US will allow two passports so (two book numbers) by exception. But they have to be applied for. I would expect his PP to flag as replaced as it goes through US border control. Otherwise one could apply for numerous PP and hand them over to forgers.

And PP remain the property of the US they never become personal property but it looks as if he has a 14th amendment right to travel on the old one (so he can get back to the US and not be detained abroad for no pp)

just had a look around online for public comment from Ryan but this vague post on Blue Skye seems to be it thus far:

Yes, he's a veritable Rosa Parks.

Well, if you are a man who thinks that the only function of a vagina is a fuck hole, I guess they would consider it ‘fully functional’….

Castellucci described the experience of trying to obtain legal documents listing them as non-binary as an "ordeal" and the court heard they worried about possible difficulties related to their gender identity when applying for British citizenship.

They also raised concerns about how their gender identity would be reflected on their death certificate, when their US documents state they are non-binary.
Lord Justice Singh, sitting with Dame Victoria Sharp and Sir Andrew McFarlane, said that only 11 countries worldwide, as well as some US states including California, recognise non-binary gender in law.

Non-binary is an umbrella term for those those who do not identify as exclusively male or female.
In a judgment published on Tuesday, external, Lord Justice Singh said: "The concept of 'gender' in the Gender Recognition Act (GRA), when referred to in the context of the domestic law route, is confined to two genders."

Legally there are only two possible genders in the UK. So now can we teach kids in line with the actual law?

We have to adhere to the law in the US if we visit or live there. The audacity of demanding the law in another country is changed just for you is pretty staggering.

And his dead body will still be a male skeleton, with male DNA...

Well that settled that then.

So… there is not 130+ genders ?

Why is the court still recognising two, if they cannot recognise all of them? Because it is all philosophical belief anyway so it seems time to unpick the fiction from all the laws.

“In 2014 the claimant married a woman. At that stage they took steps to pass as a man in the way they dressed and cut their hair.” 🤷🏻‍♀️

Nope. Officially we can say there are just two genders in the UK.

Now we can get on with the job of realising that actually gender just means boring old gender stereotypes and that sex is not gender.

Maybe then people will wake up to how we codified gender stereotypes into law and the problem with that will dawn on them.

It's a quote from the song at the end of Portal.

It's sung by an AI who sadistically tortures a human in the name of "science". Ironic choice for a trans tech bro who thinks "science" can deliver anything he wants.

Sorry Ryan, the cake is a lie and a surgical cavity lined with skin is not a vagina. Anyone who experiences life from the embodied perspective of the type of adult body of that has a real vagina feels incredibly sad for you that you have been conned into something so fake. It's like ordering a pina colada on the menu and getting a photograph of a pina colada because technically that was what was on the menu.