Scottish Daily Express reported to the police for telling the truth

[TwistedWonder]

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scottish-express-reported-police-referring-34687715?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

FFS - Don’t the police have better things to worry about?

To be fair to the police it looks as if they rightly recognise there is no crime here , and they have refused to take this forward. This is the second report to the police. The reporters are threatening judicial review … fine, if they want to waste thousands of pounds !

"simply stating a fact" is, allegedly, a "well-worn 'gender critical' tropes."

Watch out, Wikipedia, Encyclopaedia Britannica, Oxford English Dictionary,
Merriam Webster, etc, the TRAs are coming for you for your gender critical trope of simply stating facts!

The person who reported them is not from the official SEEN police network. It is an individual who has set up their own account with a similar name. The person is believed to be the a TW who was sacked from the police force in 2023 following an online campaign of targeted harassment, particularly against Harry Miller.

I read a few of those fauxSEEN tweets and i thought it reminded me of the way that bloke used to go after Fair Cop.

If it's OK to report on Tommy Robinson's name being Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, why isn't it ok to mention Dr Upton's original name, which he used into adulthood? That's one of the complaints against the Scottish Express.

Upton's a transwoman, so anyone with half a brain - except the man himself, apparently, according to his recent testimony - knows he is male and grew up from baby boy to man with a name that definitely wasn't Beth. He shares his name with one of Alvin's Chipmunks, I believe.

If it's because it's 'unkind' to refer to a name someone no longer uses, why is that OK to do it to Tommy Robinson? Yes, he's a horrible little man, but I didn't think we only obeyed society's rules for people we liked. And to my mind, Dr Upton is pretty ghastly, given what he subjected Ms Peggie to.

No one is having a hissy fit about us all knowing Reg Dwight is Elton John's real name. How did a trans identifying person's original name become verboten and 'deadnaming'? It's so ridiculous.

I'm familiar with the Twitter account SEENpoliceUK, nice of the Terfspress to give them some free publicity which is always good for picking up new followers. Any threats made against gay or trans people on the unmoderated hellhole once called Twitter are archived and reported to police by them if necessary.

And is there any point of this Express article other than to further encourage harassment against the trans person? I'm sure they knew it would be posted on forums like this one. That's what it's about IMO and not the misgendering per se, tabloids like this one and certain gender critical accounts with a lot of followers seem to be making a point of mentioning names of trans people to a large audience.

Normally I don't engage with you, Chris, but it would be poor form to not remind you that the judge agreed that Upton can be called a man, so your bloviating is just noise to ignore. HTH

For the absence of doubt, Dr Upton is a man who has chosen to invade single sex spaces to force women to collude in his delusions. The fact that you collude willingly, in spite of threads and threads of people pointing out why you are wrong, suggests something about your own decision to try to force us to collude.

We are not going to do it. However much you, and he, demand that we do.

Trying to point out that IMHO this isn't about "misgendering", the tabloid could be seen as encouraging others to harass them. This specific article doesn't give any new updates about the trial does it? It's just "look, bad trans person, I'll look the other way if anyone wants to harass them" (is how it looks to me, IMO) to an audience of possibly millions at a time when IMO trans people are very vulnerable due to extreme scrutiny by tabloids and others with large followers.

Chris, if the judge says it's resonable to refer to Upton as a man and as he, why are you complaining. Correctly stating the sex of someone in what it a sexual harrassment case, at least in part, is a pretty crucial bit of information.

If Upton were female none of this would be happening. It's his insistence on using spaces made available to female members of staff that caused all the aggro. So that fact that he's male is pretty much the entire issue.

He reported the newspaper to the police for reporting the news accurately. I think it's fair enough if the paper answers back. Perhaps he should have kept his nose out?

So the newspaper called a man a man. Boo hoo let me pass you a tissue (slightly worried what it might be used for)

I pity the police and despise a law that means even if the police deem it not a crime they still log it as a non-crime hate incident - when non-incident, or non-crime non-hate incident would be clearer.

Oh dear Christinapple being hoist with your own petard is becoming a sad habit of yours, you really should re-think.

I'm familiar with the Twitter account SEENpoliceUK, nice of the Terfspress to give them some free publicity which is always good for picking up new followers.

An account that lies that it is anything to do with the Police: The person who reported them is not from the official SEEN police network. It is an individual who has set up their own account with a similar name.

Any threats made against gay or trans people on the unmoderated hellhole once called Twitter are archived and reported to police by them if necessary.

Do they report threats made by TRAs to women and people holding GC views? You know just to be evenly balanced and all that?

And is there any point of this Express article other than to further encourage harassment against the trans person? I'm sure they knew it would be posted on forums like this one. That's what it's about IMO and not the misgendering per se, tabloids like this one and certain gender critical accounts with a lot of followers seem to be making a point of mentioning names of trans people to a large audience.

The person behind this account seems an excellent person to be reporting harassment to (heavy sarcasm) don't you think? (Or do you ever actually think?) : The person is believed to be the a TW who was sacked from the police force in 2023 following an online campaign of targeted harassment, particularly against Harry Miller.

My thanks and credit to Justme56.

Absolute madness. He IS a man!

‘Terfspress’? You mean by that, I assume, a news organisation that is familiar with the factual realities of biological sex, and as such believes that that should be reflected in its reporting?
Facts may not matter to you but they do to those of us who wish to have a reasoned debate about this issue. Without facts we have nothing. Humans cannot change sex, Dr Upton is a man, and thank goodness there seems to be some sanity being restored which means that women can actually state this without being bullied, harassed, threatened and intimidated.

I take it you've missed the fact that the acronym resulting from this part of the account's handle "Police Official Open Public" is POOP - a very apt description of the utter rubbish they post. 😉😁

I didn't realise that Dr Upton DOESN'T have a GR cert. So he's still a man in every legal respect. He's just a man who self-identifies as a woman, but wasn't self ID in Scotland blocked by the UK government in 2023?

And remember that this pretendy police X page reported the Express for a hate crime, was told by the police it’s not a hate crime go away and has now thrown their toys out pram and made a second pointless baseless report.

So without them going ‘wah wah it’s not fair’ the Express wouldn’t have had to counter the nonsensical and malicious report by defending themselves with the truth.

Dr Upton has had no surgery, he’s married to a straight woman and doesn’t have a GRC.

But he thinks he’s a woman because he wears a bit of lippy and does a well practiced head tilt.

@TwistedWonder And don’t forget he also stated that ‘the concept of biological sex is a nebulous dog whistle’. He’s not fit to practice medicine.

He also stated he suffers from homophobia due to his same sex marriage. Dr Upton wouldn't recognize reality if his life depended on it.

He denies the reality of science and biological facts. He's an embarrassment to the medical sector and should not be practicing medicine.

He didn't have a GRC, which doesn't require surgery or hormones, just paperwork and an earnest commitment to follow opposite sex stereotypes. For all we know Dr Upton's GRC arrived in the post at the weekend. He could be a woman by Monday. Two years, a bit of paperwork and, I think, £5. No actual woman needs a certificate to say that's what she is.

A heterosexual, middle-class, well-educated white male doctor is not oppressed or marginalised. He’s privileged as feck. However, all that changes with the simple application of lipstick and pronouns. Now he has oppressed victim status. This means he can hound women - actual women, who experience sexism as a result of their biology - out of their jobs for failing to validate his nebulous gender identity.

Dr U may have genuine gender dysphoria. I do sympathise with dysphoric trans people because at least they’re not doing it for shits and giggles. Even so, M to F transitioners need to respect women’s spaces and understand that gender identity is intangible, ethereal, and cannot be proven, while sex is real. It matters.

Sandie couldn’t win, eh Doc? She looks at you, she’s a bigot. She doesn’t look at you, she’s a bigot. She waits for you to finish changing, without complaining, she’s a bigot. She finally complains, when you’re lurking in the room she needs to use after she’s suffered a menstrual flooding incident. You couldn’t care less about her needs, her dignity or privacy. But now she’s worse than just a common or garden bigot. She’s actually really scary now and is making you feel unsafe.

A strapping young 6ft man is frightened of a 5ft 6 middle-aged woman because she dares to assert her boundaries and needs. It’s a shock isn’t it, to discover that not all women are going to be your cheerleaders? To think that women actually need some things for themselves and couldn’t care less about your nebulous gender identity when it comes into conflict with the very real issue of biological sex and women’s sex-based rights and needs?

This whole case makes me think the world has gone bonkers. The fault lies with the mantra, trans women are women, trans men are men. No they’re not. Change gender all you like but nobody changes sex.

Women need their spaces, their sports and their language. That is not hateful. It’s common sense. You do you, Doctor U, but only if it is not affecting anyone else. That means sorting out your own space to get changed.

Bravo to this newspaper for using fact-based pronouns.