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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Knickers to knackers

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 15/02/2025 15:21

I propose from this day forth, we retire the phrase "put on my big girl pants" in favour of "put on my no-nonsense nurse's knickers".

All those in favour say "aye!"

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BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 15/02/2025 22:29

CuriousAlien · 15/02/2025 21:29

That is a really interesting phrase. It's not one I'd use. Doesn't it mean move on from nappies and start wearing pants? I know some women use it together or about themselves in a way that's useful for them but I can't help finding it odd. It's sort of like "grow a pair" or "man up" but really more like "take off the stabilisers". Something used for support is taken away and the person has to face up to reality. And take care of their own shit unaided...
I don't know what I'd replace it with. I just sort of say to myself "come on, it's time you stopped pissing about and took responsibility" which err doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

Grow up?
Roll up your sleeves and get stuck in?
Step up to the plate?
Face the music?

Maybe no-nonsense nurse knickers is the way to go.

Crack on.

Unfortunately in context it definitely didn't mean face up to reality or take responsibility.

Datun · 16/02/2025 07:03

He'd been working on what to say. He must've known he'd be asked.

Why, if he was really was almost collapsing with upset and distress at seeing Sandie in the CR, and had to be helped to his car crying his eyes out, he'd go right back in there three days later?

He's not to know how unlikely it is that any woman would say that.

In a public situation.

In front of an audience.

To describe her 'bravery' in stripping off. In the wrong changing room.

It's a testament to quite how inappropriate it is that journalists are seizing on it with such glee,

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2025 07:11

He's 28. He's a qualified doctor. He's a man.

He is not and never was a girl. It was one of several instances where he carefully and deliberately appropriated women's things.

Another offensive appropriation was where he hypothesised about homophobes objecting to his marriage.

He's a straight, white, middle-class man.

The NHS has enabled this man to mock women. Edit - enabled, supported and encouraged.

Helleofabore · 16/02/2025 07:28

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2025 07:11

He's 28. He's a qualified doctor. He's a man.

He is not and never was a girl. It was one of several instances where he carefully and deliberately appropriated women's things.

Another offensive appropriation was where he hypothesised about homophobes objecting to his marriage.

He's a straight, white, middle-class man.

The NHS has enabled this man to mock women. Edit - enabled, supported and encouraged.

Edited

This is a male person who feels he has the right to appropriate anything as long as it is ‘sincerely’ felt.

And by declaring womanhood, it has to be logical that homosexuality follows.

DeanElderberry · 16/02/2025 07:47

afaik the phrase was originally American, 'put on your big boy pants' referred to pants in the American or Irish sense, so trousers not underwear, and was a colourful way of saying 'grow up'.

I think I'll stick with 'grow up', don't want to use any kind of undergarment language around these people.

CuriousAlien · 16/02/2025 08:49

DeanElderberry · 16/02/2025 07:47

afaik the phrase was originally American, 'put on your big boy pants' referred to pants in the American or Irish sense, so trousers not underwear, and was a colourful way of saying 'grow up'.

I think I'll stick with 'grow up', don't want to use any kind of undergarment language around these people.

Thanks. That makes it weirder that women would use it since there's no such female transition from shorts to trousers. (Though obviously phrases can evolve and the original meaning is lost and I've definitely heard people use it with toilet training as well.)

It also implies then that the person is maturing into an adult (man or woman) and is a kind of rite of passage. It only makes sense to me if said by a person who has already passed through the rite themselves.

Now I'm wondering, do some people think that membership of the group "women" can be conferred if someone does enough work to become a woman? (This is why a man might use the phrase big girls pants as if to say, that's it, I've done the work) Or very special people can be allowed to join the club? (Which is the model we used to have, thanks to psychiatrists deciding for us.)

And other people think they can just declare into this group. Seemingly at will. With magic words.

The problem I have with this is that if I don't perform "woman" and if I don't declare myself "woman" then I wouldn't be a woman. And since I don't perform "man" or declare myself "man" I'm not that either.

I wonder what I am? Why don't I have the special sparkly magics?

MTCoffeePot · 16/02/2025 08:53

Wasn't Donald Trump told to 'put on his big boy pants' when he lost to Biden? Anyway, no women would say 'big girl pants' and it's a totally inappropriate term to be used in a courtroom.

XXylophonic · 16/02/2025 15:52

TWETMIRF · 15/02/2025 17:29

I'm just grateful that he said pants and not panties. He's just the sort of creepy man that would use the term

I was thinking the same. The T on Reddit are always talking about panties 🤮🤢. I never hear real women using that word
Only creepy pervs and TW

OverpricedCupcake · 17/02/2025 00:05

They always call them, "panties", too.
I don't know any woman who calls their underwear that, it's a creepy man name for them.
Bleeuurgh.
I always feel like I want to dip my head in bleach after talking about disgusting Dr Upton.

MRD16901872 · 22/03/2025 07:53

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