DT and a Waterloo Road storyline

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Michael Deacon isn’t impressed!

No idea why but my archives seem to have recently stopped working. Can anyone help?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/15/trans-teenager-bbc-waterloo-road-dementia-grandmother/

I’ve never managed archiving I’m afraid.

For those on x you can see the clip - bloody old women with dementia being so bigoted rather than considering the needs of the stunning & brave

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1889947325814153595?s=46

https://archive.is/vpI8J

here is the link

I watched the snippets of this episode and now think that the writers really do want to shine a light on this type of thinking.

It will be like the TV drama version of NHS Fife. Even if they simply show a recreation of the court transcript faithfully, it will be enough for the majority to see and understand.

The BBC portraying an adult man as a teen girl in a mini skirt?! They are depraved.

Now we know where the writers for Doctors have been recycled…🙄

It's hilarious the way Lois towers over the adults.

Waterloo Road had a trans storyline back in 2013 but the character (who was biologically female) later detransitioned. Looking at the wiki, it seems to be that her gender dysphoria was at least partially caused by being a tomboy and wanting to play football.

The way the showrunners treated these two storylines, 12 years apart and with different sexes involved, is... interesting.

The simplistic writing is very reminiscent of Doctors, but dementia and trans rarely gets spoken about (unless the trans person can be the victim due to someone else with dementia).

An interesting thing I heard is that a lot of MtF who get dementia forget that they went through the whole transition process and then revert back to being male and stating how upset they are because someone has operated on them. It's pretty traumatic and made worse by the fact that continued use of synthetic hormones increases their dementia risk.

Dementia in trans people doesn't get mentioned because it again blows the myth that "gender identity" is innate and that the medical procedures for transition increase dementia likelihood.

So when you hear dementia and trans it is going to be how someone with dementia forget that someone transitioned, rather than a trans person with dementia forgetting that they had transitioned.

Couldn't see enough in the clips to work out what the moralising answer is - the gran's a good egg for lying when she still remembered she was supposed to?

The actor manages to pass impressively well if they're male. I suppose screen makeup helps. Feel like that's kind of selling young people false hope, most won't achieve nearly that degree of passing as the other sex.

I remember watching at some point the previous (or is it one before last) trans character, the one LittleMyLittle mentions. Some moments stick out. Her 'yuck' reaction at the smell of boys changing rooms and complete lack of interest in using them was one.

My best friend’s mum had dementia for many years. She was a smart professional woman, a single parent and a lovely mum. As a result of the dementia she became angry and sometimes violent, went walkabout several times and for the last few years of her life didn’t recognise any of her children. It is a horrible illness. However no matter how upset my friend was, she never made it about herself, nor did any of her own kids. I don’t blame the actor for the storyline because all it does is make the person look like a self obsessed child. However, the writers should know better.

"An interesting thing I heard is that a lot of MtF who get dementia forget that they went through the whole transition process and then revert back to being male and stating how upset they are because someone has operated on them. It's pretty traumatic and made worse by the fact that continued use of synthetic hormones increases their dementia risk."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wales-43365985

Yes, the NHS is already having to deal with it- that BBC story is from 2018!
"Jenny Burgess, 66, from Connah's Quay, Flintshire, said a dementia patient regressing in their mind to a time before their gender was reassigned may cause serious distress and it was important staff were trained to deal with the issue."

Serious distress? No shit, Sherlock!

The passability for this actor comes from being on puberty blockers from a young age (although they're still incredibly tall)m which is why there is such a push to get children onto them.

Don't agree with giving children puberty blockers in the name of transitioning, but regardless this actor shows the results of such intervention.

I think I agree with you. The story line shows what an entitled narcissist the 'Lois' character is - to be reacting to being called Jake by insulting his dying grandmother, saying she 'dead named' him. And then he stands up and is applauded for saying he has become a strong woman - his role-model being Lois Lane! It's not his Gran's death that upsets him, it's her denial of his gender ID!
Someone has a different agenda from the obvious one. That Gran did indeed pretend, even to labelling the photos, and said so when she was dying. She never had a grand-daughter, only a grandson. The message is that we all pretend that a TiM is a woman/girl, because it keeps the peace and thus we are using compelled speech. Alzheimer's freed Gran's tongue.
NB The script is better than 'Doctors' - though I remember the one episode I ever saw had the best explanation of why transgenderism is nonsense and how damaging it is that have seen for some while.

And looking at the actor’s images on line, they seem to know that when their face is not in a particular open mouthed position, their facial cues would be perceived as male.

Not that the producer choice of actor mattered for the story. But it is merely a comment on the success or not of puberty blockers.

https://x.com/marycatedelvey/status/1820176121075572782

Not sure if this will work but this post reminded me of it

lol I knew exactly what this was going to be 😂😂😂

Kacey Barry

She played football and looked like Luka Modric then she became a boxer and Nicola Adams appeared!

He’s tall because of the puberty blockers. Apparently growth doesn’t stop until the hormones stop it.

He’s tall because of the puberty blockers.

Like the castrati.

Which is why this adult makes a convincing child :( it’s just desperate when you think about it

Crikey, that article - hey've got leading questions down pat haven't they!

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/lifestyle/a35766170/young-trans-woman-importance-family-support/

'She started counselling at 11 for her behavioural issues, and began talking about her true gender identity.

“They asked: ‘Do you think you're trapped in your body? Do you think you want to be somebody else?’

And I was like: ‘Yeah, I do,” Miya said.'

And the typical Susie Green type story:
“From when Miya was three years old, we knew something was a bit different. At Christmas we’d want to buy a train set, boy things, but Miya just wanted dolls. When she came to our house, she went for the high heels out of the wardrobe,”

Seems harsh to castrate a child for that.

Seems harsh to castrate a child for that.

A lot of little boys who are like this grow up to be gay, so homophobes think it's perfectly reasonable to castrate them.

Or as some of them like to say: "Better a straight daughter than a gay son."