Do you ever wade in on FB posts?

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Friend of mine has shared the Good law project clip urging people to complain to ofcom about GB news/Josh Howie, who has stated that the Q+ includes paedophiles (true, "minor attracted persons" as they sweetly call themselves, are included)

She's raging about him being homophobic when it's nothing to do with homosexuality and I'm so tempted to comment but I always hold back to avoid getting into a spat with random people I don't know/who don't know me.

Do you tend to get involved, or just seethe away?

I dont tend to post on fb as there's a lot of bonkers people on there so I would ignore and seethe instead.

The reason I'm so tempted to comment is that my friend isn't bonkers...I just think she hasn't looked into it enough. But her friends might be bonkers 😜

No it's just not worth it

For me personally.

I do in teachers and other groups though.

Refer her to the current Radio4 series on the PIE and how they tried to say it was homophobic then. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00272c5

I do, but it's easier for me because I have secure employment, my DH is gender critical and so are most of my friends and family. I know this is a privileged position, and my reasoning is that if people like me don't speak up for women and children's rights, then who will?

I always try to back up every statement with facts and figures. I also try to highlight the difference between their side - hyperbole, threats and mantras, and our side - calm, reasoned debate.

(I frequently don't feel particularly calm but I do try!).

Never ever on FB, no. It's both too personal and not personal enough.

Not on friends' posts but I've had it on mine a couple of times. Once I invited my terfy friends to post on the post as well and my TRA lite friend was completely out of her depth and ran away.

But i don't want bad feelings with people I care about, and my more informed friends made her look a bit dim and virtue signally, so I felt a bit bad. I therefore no longer post that sort of stuff on my public FB.

I always hold back to avoid getting into a spat with random people I don't know/who don't know me.

Isn't that exactly what people are doing here?

I tend not to say anything. I know quite a lot of well- meaning kind people who are just not very clued up on this topic. I do argue quite a bit with my younger sister on this topic. She just accuses me of being transphobic and tells me I set a bad example to my dd

I rarely do (I've mostly hidden the people who annoy me on FB), but when I've occasionally been tempted to wade in, it's been futile, because as soon as someone posts something sensible, rational and completely irrefutable, the person will close off comments, usually with a sanctimonious comment about the importance of being kind.

Far better to have conversations in real life, whenever possible.

Is this a post on her timeline?

Are you concerned that others she shares posts to will think she is right and so pick on you if you post something querying to comment?

And how much do you value getting her FB posts and being in touch?

And is it important enough to keep that contact even though it means you are not being open / honest with her.

You could just try and set out that at lot of lesbians and gay men dont recognise all those other letters being tagged onto the very distinct group of same sex (ie sex not gender) attracted people.

And that the problem with all the letters that have been added on there are some grouping whose remit is so wide it does include "minor attracted persons" and surely she doesn't support them.

If however this is a facebook group with any number of unknown people its rather different. And presumably by now there will have been occasions when opposing views about the whole rainbow salad has come up.

Yes but we are all anonymous!

Rarely. There are nutters on there, but more importantly, anything public that you comment on can get highlighted to your facebook friends, and there are some who have trans children etc. and who I don't want to see my GC comments.

I'd love to have some friends in real life to chat to about it but even though some of them I've mentioned it to agree with me, they aren't as outraged about it all 😂

Sometimes. On that post, I would ask if anyone knows what the + stands for, and highlight the GLP's poor track record of taking money and losing. (I think the presenter's comments were not appropriate, in truth, but would not give any money to GLP over it.)

Yeah, sometimes. Arguing with randoms rarely goes anywhere useful. I have had some OK exchanges with friends who have a different point of view, and have had to think a bit, and I'm usually glad at least we know where each other is coming from.