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Suffragette lanyard

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Pocketfluff1 · 07/02/2025 16:49

I’ve recently started a new job in the NHS and I’m thinking about wearing my suffragette lanyard as an alternative to the pride/rainbow one I’ve been given. Am I potentially sabotaging my new job or can I get away with it by saying I just love feminism?!

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Grammarnut · 07/02/2025 20:17

JimHalpertsWife · 07/02/2025 17:29

I use the Suffragette colours as much as possible in daily life. I did see recently though that the LGBTQXYZ community seem to have adopted those colours and defined them as "genderqueer" which, on googling, means God only knows what.

So the defiance you want to (and ought to) be signifying might be seen by some in that community as allyship.

Next thing to wonder - why have they adopted those colours for that category.

Because women are not allowed to have anything of their own. I despair at the women who support this shit show, really, I do.

TinselAngel · 07/02/2025 20:25

I think you're best trying to keep politics out of work wear.

JimHalpertsWife · 07/02/2025 20:25

Grammarnut · 07/02/2025 20:17

Because women are not allowed to have anything of their own. I despair at the women who support this shit show, really, I do.

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First they came for our pronouns
Then they came for our changing rooms
Then they came for our colours

JimHalpertsWife · 07/02/2025 20:26

TinselAngel · 07/02/2025 20:25

I think you're best trying to keep politics out of work wear.

Yet police cars are plastered with the pride flag.

Toseland · 07/02/2025 20:29

ErrolTheDragon · 07/02/2025 18:26

Yes, the hijacking seems to have been ignorance rather than malice.

I bet far more people know the British suffragette colours than the 'genderqueer' ones (or even that such a thing exists, tbh).

I'm not sure I believe it's ignorance as they used the American Suffragette colours for another one of the gender flags.

MarieDeGournay · 07/02/2025 20:30

TinselAngel · 07/02/2025 20:25

I think you're best trying to keep politics out of work wear.

I think that rainbow-liveried train has left the station, TinselAngel!

Rogerisourlodger · 07/02/2025 20:34

TinselAngel · 07/02/2025 20:25

I think you're best trying to keep politics out of work wear.

Try telling Stonewall that first ...

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Pocketfluff1 · 07/02/2025 21:52

I would be happy to keep politics out of the workplace but the T stuff is so shoved down our throats, I feel like I have to make a stand, however tiny, against it.

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ErrolTheDragon · 07/02/2025 23:27

I'm not sure I believe it's ignorance as they used the American Suffragette colours for another one of the gender flags.

Tbf I doubt I knew the U.K. colours when I was young.

DorothyStorm · 07/02/2025 23:35

We have to wear a specific lanyard at work so i have a suffragette badge pinned onto it

ForIcyAzureDreamer · 07/02/2025 23:36

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 07/02/2025 17:13

Ah bless you for trying.

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Ah bless you for not trying not to patronise other women on a forum.

tedlassoforprimeminister · 07/02/2025 23:52

TinselAngel · 07/02/2025 20:25

I think you're best trying to keep politics out of work wear.

If there is encouragement to wear the rainbow as a lanyard or badge, then it's absolutely fine to wear the suffrage colours instead.

Grammarnut · 07/02/2025 23:56

ErrolTheDragon · 07/02/2025 23:27

I'm not sure I believe it's ignorance as they used the American Suffragette colours for another one of the gender flags.

Tbf I doubt I knew the U.K. colours when I was young.

You didn't watch the BBC series on suffragettes, then. But if you were not around in the seventies I suppose that would be unlikely.
I don't remember knowing them when I was young either - and I did social and economic history for A level (60s).

TinselAngel · 08/02/2025 00:17

Obviously I realise the rainbow lanyard brigade got there first but it’s difficult to argue that they shouldn’t be doing it if we’re doing the same thing.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/02/2025 00:23

I was secondary school age in the 70s, I probably didn't see it... and we were still black and white for the first apart of that decade I think!Grin

halfpastten · 08/02/2025 01:29

Young woke neighbour asked me if my ribbon was genderqueer! His wife quickly corrected him, then they both looked uncomfortable as the realisation of possible terf association sunk in.

Lookuptotheskies · 08/02/2025 09:13

I never knew there were colours for gender queer! Or that they were the suffragette colours. 🙄

OP I'd wear it. And maybe a relevant pin badge on it too.

StMarie4me · 08/02/2025 09:46

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 07/02/2025 17:56

Seriously, they've even hijack our Suffragette colours for this 'gender'whatnow.

Your Suffragette?

Are you seriously trying to weaponise the suffragettes for your own agenda?

Wow. Just wow!

StMarie4me · 08/02/2025 09:52

@JimHalpertsWife so you don't think that the Police should be overhauling their attitudes to the LGBT community then? You don't think that it could be a declaration of contemporary attitudes (which the lack of, let's face it, led to many deaths and/ or lack of investigation in the recent as well as distant past) is a good thing?

Dead young people?

Marginalised and murdered people?

People too afraid to go to the very authority there to protect them?

Would you rather go back to pre, say, the 2010 Equality act? With its 9 protected characteristics? That is Law. In the workplace.

You know- that thing that we have in a Democracy. Law.

LuckysDadsHat · 08/02/2025 10:02

StMarie4me · 08/02/2025 09:52

@JimHalpertsWife so you don't think that the Police should be overhauling their attitudes to the LGBT community then? You don't think that it could be a declaration of contemporary attitudes (which the lack of, let's face it, led to many deaths and/ or lack of investigation in the recent as well as distant past) is a good thing?

Dead young people?

Marginalised and murdered people?

People too afraid to go to the very authority there to protect them?

Would you rather go back to pre, say, the 2010 Equality act? With its 9 protected characteristics? That is Law. In the workplace.

You know- that thing that we have in a Democracy. Law.

Do you not think the police should overhaul their attitude towards women?

Dead women by police officers.

Raped women by police officers.

Marginalised women by police officer.

Women too afraid to go to the very authority that should protect them........

DemeraraAbyss · 08/02/2025 10:06

Nine protected characteristics, one of which is Sex. Gender identity is not a protected characteristic.

JimHalpertsWife · 08/02/2025 10:11

StMarie4me · 08/02/2025 09:52

@JimHalpertsWife so you don't think that the Police should be overhauling their attitudes to the LGBT community then? You don't think that it could be a declaration of contemporary attitudes (which the lack of, let's face it, led to many deaths and/ or lack of investigation in the recent as well as distant past) is a good thing?

Dead young people?

Marginalised and murdered people?

People too afraid to go to the very authority there to protect them?

Would you rather go back to pre, say, the 2010 Equality act? With its 9 protected characteristics? That is Law. In the workplace.

You know- that thing that we have in a Democracy. Law.

That comment was in reposne to someone (was it you) saying no politics in the workplace. Politics is baked into workplaces these days. But if its gender critical thinking then all of a sudden its "don't bring it into work".

I appreciate your passionate reply to my comment. I think it's incredibly short sighted of you to see my single sentence and extrapolate from that that I somehow want dead teenagers?

Ffs. Engage a bit of critical thought.

DeepFatFried · 08/02/2025 10:46

I think Suffragette colours honour the suffragettes and the fight for women’s suffrage. And as such, a reminder of the ongoing need to promote and protect equality rights for women.

I am a GC feminist, and also happen to think that uniforms and workplace lanyards should be uniform standard issue.

DemeraraAbyss · 08/02/2025 10:51

If progress pride lanyards are allowed then any negative impact of a suffragette lanyard would be unlawful discrimination or harassment.

BriocheForBreakfast · 08/02/2025 10:52

Pocketfluff1 · 07/02/2025 17:28

No, there’s nothing in the dress code policy about it. If asked, I might just feign innocence and say I just like the colours or something!

👏🏻 This is what I was going to suggest