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Peer-reviewed article examining criticisms of the Cass Review just published

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UtopiaPlanitia · 04/02/2025 19:45

Tweet thread from SEGM (Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine)

https://x.com/segm_ebm/status/1886812491784601779

“…The authors found that the primary source of the criticism, a non-peer-reviewed paper published on the Yale Law School website, contains numerous inaccurate and misleading claims.

Link to the peer-reviewed article here:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2025.2455133#abstract

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UtopiaPlanitia · 04/02/2025 19:47

https://x.com/segm_ebm/status/1886812495907602453

The authors of the new publication conclude: "The Cass Review’s careful, balanced investigations and judgments were a comprehensive, evidence-based response to the controversies in this pediatric clinical arena. Recently-published critiques of the Review have contained incorrect or inadequately contextualized claims. Because accurate information about medical interventions is essential to informed consent, it is important to correct errors in potentially influential publications."

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https://x.com/segm_ebm/status/1886812495907602453

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UtopiaPlanitia · 04/02/2025 19:50

https://x.com/segm_ebm/status/1886812498478711013

This is the second peer-reviewed formidable defense of the Cass Review's validity. The first peer-reviewed analysis of misinformation directed at the Cass Review was published in the BMJ ADC, the official journal of UK Royal College of Paediatrics.“

https://adc.bmj.com/content/early/2024/10/15/archdischild-2024-327994.info

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FlowchartRequired · 04/02/2025 20:03

Thanks for posting this. I will read it later.

UtopiaPlanitia · 04/02/2025 23:58

FlowchartRequired · 04/02/2025 20:03

Thanks for posting this. I will read it later.

You're welcome - I thought that it would be an interesting article for FWR members to read and it will also come in handy to post links for the posters who plop onto threads claiming the Yale article disproves the findings of the Cass Review.

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 05/02/2025 08:43

Thanks for posting this, it's good to know the evidence is mounting up, now all we need is for an activist group such as Sex Matters to bring it to the attention of the 'trans' raddled Women and Equality Commission, who have recently given space to WPATH to promote their lies. .

Igmum · 05/02/2025 15:39

Thanks Utopia. So pleased to see more grown ups drawing sensible and scientific conclusions

UtopiaPlanitia · 07/02/2025 02:46

Igmum · 05/02/2025 15:39

Thanks Utopia. So pleased to see more grown ups drawing sensible and scientific conclusions

I agree - I'm so glad someone knowledgeable took the time to refute the incorrect statements made in the Yale document. Although, despite the Yale document being corrected by this peer-reviewed article, I'm sure that it will continue to be cited by TRAs both here and elsewhere online.

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WarriorN · 07/02/2025 06:30

Thanks for this

UtopiaPlanitia · 07/02/2025 14:29

You’re very welcome Warrior, it does make for helpful and reassuring reading.

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sweetsardineface · 07/02/2025 14:40

Thanks for this. I don’t think this kind of article would have been published just a few years ago.

BabaYagasHouse · 07/02/2025 14:59

Oh! I've been waiting for something like this for ages.
Great it's in the BMJ.
Thanks so much Utopia!

UtopiaPlanitia · 08/02/2025 02:32

No worries @BabaYagasHouse I came across it via SEGM and was very happy to post it here in case it would be use or interest to FWR. I agree, something like this was sorely needed and the BMJ publishing it is very welcome.

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WarriorN · 08/02/2025 08:54

It's extremely useful - valuable for sending to certain politicians who still seem to deny the existence of Cass. And the Green Party.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/02/2025 13:28

WarriorN · 08/02/2025 08:54

It's extremely useful - valuable for sending to certain politicians who still seem to deny the existence of Cass. And the Green Party.

Like Plaid Cymru who are still trying to get the ban on puberty blockers lifted. 🤬

SionnachRuadh · 08/02/2025 13:34

What happened to Plaid? They used to be fairly harmless people who spoke up about the Welsh language and rural economy.

Now they all seem to think they're the studio audience hooting and hollering on RuPaul's Drag Race.

If there's a Welsh equivalent of Glinner, this is comedy gold just waiting for you.

UtopiaPlanitia · 08/02/2025 18:46

SionnachRuadh · 08/02/2025 13:34

What happened to Plaid? They used to be fairly harmless people who spoke up about the Welsh language and rural economy.

Now they all seem to think they're the studio audience hooting and hollering on RuPaul's Drag Race.

If there's a Welsh equivalent of Glinner, this is comedy gold just waiting for you.

Plaid and Labour in Wales have gone the way of the SNP in Scotland and SF, Alliance and SDLP in NI, the way practically all parties have gone in ROI and the way the regional Green parties have gone - they’re all in competition to show how much more progressive and inclusive and generally awesome they are in comparison to Na Sasanaigh 🤷‍♀️🙄

It’s a combination of small country syndrome, cultural memories of historical colonisation, decreasing class consciousness, and not having sufficient public funding to make major useful changes in voters’ lives - so politicians resort to concentrating on tinkering with social policies and throwing off the conservative, more religious past. The internet hasn’t helped.

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SionnachRuadh · 08/02/2025 19:47

UtopiaPlanitia · 08/02/2025 18:46

Plaid and Labour in Wales have gone the way of the SNP in Scotland and SF, Alliance and SDLP in NI, the way practically all parties have gone in ROI and the way the regional Green parties have gone - they’re all in competition to show how much more progressive and inclusive and generally awesome they are in comparison to Na Sasanaigh 🤷‍♀️🙄

It’s a combination of small country syndrome, cultural memories of historical colonisation, decreasing class consciousness, and not having sufficient public funding to make major useful changes in voters’ lives - so politicians resort to concentrating on tinkering with social policies and throwing off the conservative, more religious past. The internet hasn’t helped.

Isn't it wild that we can't just put this stuff down to the Sasanaigh being so weird?

I'm convinced that lots of the ostentatious progressiveness in NI and Scotland and Wales is simply to own the English.

Could we call this Canada Syndrome?

Chersfrozenface · 08/02/2025 20:06

To be fair, there's some devotees of batshit "progressiveness" on the eastern side of Offa's Dyke and south of the Scottish border, like the Lib Dems.

And the Greens are just slightly different shades of batshit wherever they are.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/02/2025 20:32

Chersfrozenface · 08/02/2025 20:06

To be fair, there's some devotees of batshit "progressiveness" on the eastern side of Offa's Dyke and south of the Scottish border, like the Lib Dems.

And the Greens are just slightly different shades of batshit wherever they are.

The Greens are Internationally batshit crazy, whenever I read an article on something bonkers in a European country its usually their version of a Green Party that's responsible for it. All the parties mentioned are activists parties not really political parties, there seems to be something about a party that's pursuing a narrow agenda that allows them to be captured by the nutters.

SionnachRuadh · 08/02/2025 21:04

In Germany, where there's a law against insulting public officials, people have actually been taken to court and fined for dangerous subversive fascist activity like... um... tweeting the poo emoji at Green Party leaders.

This is the country that British progressives love to hold up as Europe's grown up country, where they do politics in an adult way.

I say, what is the point of democracy if you can't tweet the poo emoji at Green leaders? That's what the Greens are for.

UtopiaPlanitia · 08/02/2025 21:25

SionnachRuadh · 08/02/2025 19:47

Isn't it wild that we can't just put this stuff down to the Sasanaigh being so weird?

I'm convinced that lots of the ostentatious progressiveness in NI and Scotland and Wales is simply to own the English.

Could we call this Canada Syndrome?

I know 🤷‍♀️

I agree, especially when the term 'West Brit' is increasingly used as an insult here by the Left wing, generally middle-class 'be kind' crew towards anyone they deem as insufficiently progressive (according to their credo). It used to be just hardcore Republicans who used that term.

It is very like the relationship Canada has with the USA. Maybe Commonwealth Syndrome might also work given that Australia & N Zealand seem to display similar tendencies?

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UtopiaPlanitia · 08/02/2025 21:32

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/02/2025 20:32

The Greens are Internationally batshit crazy, whenever I read an article on something bonkers in a European country its usually their version of a Green Party that's responsible for it. All the parties mentioned are activists parties not really political parties, there seems to be something about a party that's pursuing a narrow agenda that allows them to be captured by the nutters.

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I often wonder if the Green parties fracture along, for want of a better description, Hippy v Science lines.

In the past, the Greens tended very much towards the countercultural, alternative medicine, alternative living types of people. Nowadays it has increased its membership to a wider range of people but doesn’t seem to have increased its respect for scientific inquiry as much, except for where it agrees on climate science 🤔

I also think that in many European countries the Green parties have been subjected to entryism because they had a small membership and were easily influenced/taken over from the inside by people with a different set of social and policy priorities.

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SionnachRuadh · 08/02/2025 21:37

The 'West Brit' thing is really strange. A lot of what passes for the Left in Ireland, your Richard Boyd Barrett types, are total anglophiles both politically and culturally. Some have spent their lives in UK-based political groups, and their whole politics was always based on the idea that Irishness equals backwardness.

It's a long time since I spoke to any of those people, but they were always massively anti-Republican.

Maybe it's related to Irish conformism, like how everyone used to pretend to be a Catholic conservative even if they didn't believe, and now everyone is incredibly left wing or at least pretending to be.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/02/2025 22:18

SionnachRuadh · 08/02/2025 19:47

Isn't it wild that we can't just put this stuff down to the Sasanaigh being so weird?

I'm convinced that lots of the ostentatious progressiveness in NI and Scotland and Wales is simply to own the English.

Could we call this Canada Syndrome?

I think it's Cuckoo Syndrome, the philosophy that underlines the batshittery is Post modernism, which is completely cuckoo. Cuckoo's lay their eggs in nest built by other birds, and the activist of this cuckooness have hijack parties that have been built by other causes.

With all the effort by activist to queer the whole animal kingdom, I bet it turns out cuckoo's are 'trans' birds. 😊

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