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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Abigail Shrier: How the Gender Fever Finally Broke

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RoyalCorgi · 31/01/2025 20:05

This is very much worth a read. Abigail Shrier discusses how the Obamacare legislation opened the floodgates to gender surgery. It's not something I was aware of before.

https://www.thefp.com/p/abigail-shrier-how-the-gender-fever-broke-trump-executive-order

Abigail Shrier: How the Gender Fever Finally Broke

Loving, naive parents believed medical science was above politics and beyond question. Now, with the stroke of a pen, a destructive ideology has been eliminated.

https://www.thefp.com/p/abigail-shrier-how-the-gender-fever-broke-trump-executive-order

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 31/01/2025 20:17

The gender fever doesn't seem to have broken in the UK, nor Germany if another thread is anything to go by. Lets hope it has run it's course in the USA at least.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 31/01/2025 20:30

Thanks for sharing, an informative and horrifying article, one quibble though, she misgendered Chase Strangio, she's a she not a he, and given she didn't stop the circulation of the book, I'm disappointed to see she hasn't died on a hill. Hopefully Trump's new EO's will stop the damage done by Obama.

The enormous scope of this horror is quite depressing, I wonder how the UK compares, I know in Wales it's just as bad as far as the school's are concerned, I don't know about the medical side though.

IwantToRetire · 31/01/2025 20:35

I think the floodgates were opend once the US regulatory authority, whose name I cant remember, stopped classifying gender dysphoria as a mental health issue.

This meant it was covered by insurance (big growth for them) and presumably any funded health care. ie as a "physical" condition it became part of general practice.

nauticant · 31/01/2025 23:56

It's going to be interesting to see how history views the Obama presidency. Not, I suspect, as some golden age, in terms of positive things achieved.

TempestTost · 01/02/2025 01:20

nauticant · 31/01/2025 23:56

It's going to be interesting to see how history views the Obama presidency. Not, I suspect, as some golden age, in terms of positive things achieved.

Yes, I wonder this as well. It seems to have avoided a lot of scrutiny.

I think people like that he always seems so normal.

zanahoria · 02/02/2025 08:12

I still find it astonishing how deep the Democrats waded into all this nonsense and how few of them have realised their error. They have literally given Trump an open goal and given many people a very difficult choice on who to support.

Mopsandcustard · 02/02/2025 09:22

Obama is very friendly with the Pritzkers.

CarefulN0w · 02/02/2025 09:35

IwantToRetire · 31/01/2025 20:35

I think the floodgates were opend once the US regulatory authority, whose name I cant remember, stopped classifying gender dysphoria as a mental health issue.

This meant it was covered by insurance (big growth for them) and presumably any funded health care. ie as a "physical" condition it became part of general practice.

That's a very good point...

GrumpyPanda · 02/02/2025 13:15

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 31/01/2025 20:17

The gender fever doesn't seem to have broken in the UK, nor Germany if another thread is anything to go by. Lets hope it has run it's course in the USA at least.

Germany's in an on-the-fence position on surgeries atm actually. A new affirmative guideline on treatment was passed recently against resistance by the main doctors' association and even though the authors were forced to downgrade its status with regard to evidentiary medicine.

OTOH some - not all - insurance companies stopped funding for transgender surgeries altogether after a "non-binary" would-be patient's lawsuit for funding failed in court and medical authorities said this meant the rationale for ALL such treatment would need to be reviewed. After all, if it's not linked to dysphoria anymore just how do you justify collective funding?

The traffic light coalition had originally planned to put funding for gender treatment on a new and secure footing but that of course is past history now.

JeremiahBullfrog · 02/02/2025 14:03

I am doubtful about the impact of this in the US. The crackdown has been done in a rather authoritarian way (not that Democrats can't also be authoritarian sometimes) in a highly partisan and polarised atmosphere. For American left-wingers, Trumpian opposition to trans ideology isn't a reason to abandon it - it just reinforces that to oppose the ideology is to be a horrible fascist, and will make them support it all the more strongly.

I am rather more hopeful about the current situation in the UK where we are seeing slowly but steadily increasing opposition to the transgender movement across the political spectrum.

IwantToRetire · 02/02/2025 17:35

After all, if it's not linked to dysphoria anymore just how do you justify collective funding?

Surely it hasn't been linked to dysphoria for years. Well certainly amongst activists and impressionable young people.

I thought the insurance change (pushed through by big pharma because it is such a money spinner) was about saying it is a mental illness to say you think you are in the wrong body, it is a "fact" because you "feel".

Maybe there is a difference with those who have private medical insurance.

IwantToRetire · 02/02/2025 17:40

I've just done a quick google which says that at least 26 States say Medicaid can pay for trans surgery (based on a medical professional recommending it).

And also Medicare the same.

I suppose it is whether the Trump EO covers these 2 medical insurance schemes wwhich would depend I think on whether the are Federally funded.

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