"Donald Trump doesn’t know what a woman is, either"

[WorthyTraybake]

Just boosting this articke from Glosswitch, from November. Sums up so much, so well.
https://thecritic.co.uk/donald-trump-doesnt-know-what-a-woman-is-either/

I can't speak about the whole of "the right". However, one thing I know for sure: Trump doesn't give a damn about anyone. So if there are folks on "the right" who genuinely want a better world, if they support Trump, they are as misguided as "the left" supporting this TRA shit.

Let's face it the right view women as sub humans who are only useful in what they can do for men.

The left view women as lower intelligence that they can manipulate into being useful to men.

I'm very disillusioned with both sides.

One thing I would say to those on the left who want to find a way out of this. This is not (really) about Trump. It's about what's gone wrong with the Democratic Party over the last little while and how it's lost touch with the voter base.

If every conversation comes back to evil Trump, the left will never get anywhere. We need new conversations about the things that voters actually care about. The left are letting Trump set the agenda and steer the conversation on absolutely everything - which is disastrous policy.

@TempestTost

‘There is a concept in Eastern Orthodoxy called prelest, which often comes to my mind when I think of this kind of person.
Essentially it is a spiritual delusion and false holiness, where individuals believe in their own righteousness and are blinded to the fact that they are embracing evil doctrines and practices. The remedy is supposed to be humility and awareness of one's own fallibility.’

Thank you for this. I was unaware of this concept which I will treasure. When I read the sort of posts to which you refer, I tend to think of the words of the Communion ‘ we do not come to this thy table, Lord, trusting in our own righteousness…’

(I am aware that any reference to organised Christianity immediately brands me as a right wing bigot and consigns my opinions to the dustbin of history - but I don’t care )

Exactly this. Trump (and to some extent Farage) is very good at tapping into what people want to hear. It’s what’s made him be an apparently good business man, provided you don’t look closely at the books. It’s very depressing that the Democrats knew what he was like 2016-2021 and seem to have no plan whatsoever to combat his ability to dominate the headlines.

Trump knows that he can generate tons of publicity from holding a press conference and the media/the left will generate a froth about whatever nonsense he’s said. We know already that he will not abide by POTUS conventions, he will lie and contradict himself and basically talk shit. So let’s stop expecting him to be a normal president and pay more attention to what is actually happening.

But no, the Democrats are going to turn into the Labour Party in the early 1980s infighting and in denial and not doing their job of listening to their constituents and holding the people in power to account.

The left needs Trump to be a villain to shore up its own sense of bunker-mentality righteousness and heroism. It's why we get hyperbole about Trump not giving a toss about anyone etc - there's no doubt that he's a useless knobhead like every other politician there'll ever be but he's also a human being who will love his family and friends and tells himself he sincerely cares about American people. There's also a lot of fun to be had in catastrophising to the max.

Despite the doom prophecies, it was actually a Democrat administration which didn't care enough to properly defend and secure abortion rights while Biden's first action wasn't to get kids out of cages on the Mexican border or increase environmental protections but rather to literally strip women and girls of their right to safety.

Anyway, Smith was wrong. It's an article based not on reality and the evidence of an incompetent ex-president who didn't make much difference but rather the hope that the other side is evil because it makes her own virtue shine all the brighter. Because Trump does know what a woman is after all.

Let's face it the right view women as sub humans who are only useful in what they can do for men

I don't necessarily think that's the case. The right has given the UK 3 Tory PMs and another woman Tory leader* compared to the identikit Labour PMs and leaders. But again, the left needs it to be true.

*yes they may well be awful but so is every single male leader

It's possibly worth looking at when the last 2 tory pm's were voted in and again with the current leader. It really was a poisoned chalice in those situations. Was a woman voted in to protect a man during a very difficult time(glass cliff). I'm not actually old enough to remember the situation when Thatcher was voted in.

I really don't think this holds water. The idea that those making the decisions were like "oh, this might be a bit of a shitty run for the leader, maybe we'd better give it to a woman" seems like a reach.

It's another way Labour voters try to maintain the narrative that all Tories are racist sexists. I don't think it would matter how many women, or non-white leaders they have, Labour people will continue to try and convince themselves that of course the Tories are sexist racists, and hate poor people, and hate the environment, etc.

It's how they maintain their own view that they are Good, Caring, and Kind.

Essentially it is a spiritual delusion and false holiness, where individuals believe in their own righteousness and are blinded to the fact that they are embracing evil doctrines and practices.

When you think you're Quasimodo - kind and gentle and downtrodden - but you're actually Frollo.

(In the Disney version of the story, needless to say)

I'm old enough to remember Margaret Thatcher being elected leader although I don't recall the details very well. The party was disenchanted with Heath but at the same time, very few heavyweight MPs were prepared to openly stand against him, and I think the accepted view is that she attracted a lot of votes from MPs who wanted to register a protest but hadn't necessarily expected her to win.

Leadership elections mostly only happen when there's some kind of crisis - what leader is going to stand down when they're doing well? - so I'm sceptical of the 'poison chalice, give it to a woman' reading.

You might want to look at the situation when Tatcher was voted in - a poison chalice if ever there was one.

I don’t think Tatcher was elected to deal with the mess because she was a woman. I think she had enough to her in herself as was subsequently seen. She was a strong leader. Indeed she was often criticised for being too like a man.

The difference between Trump and Biden is with Trump it is not hidden. Much criticism has been made of Elon Musk and again the only difference with the Democrats is it is not hidden,

The only reason Trump and his cronies want the boundaries between men and women clearly defined is so that when they grab pussy, they don't find themselves with a handful of penis.

As opposed to Biden and his cronies who don’t care as long as they identify as women?

@guaranteedpersonality "If Trump is the 'bad' guy then sometimes we need the 'bad' guy to push back on the mountain of destruction and damage caused by the 'good' people."
Now all I can think of is Team America!