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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are politicians trying too destroy Cass?

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SmudgeHughes · 26/01/2025 19:13

The Women and Equalities Select Committee held a session this week on the “Evidence base of the safety and effectiveness of puberty blockers’.

As Hannah Barnes writes, this seemed strange given the recent four-year review into youth gender services that looked at that very question. Surely, therefore, you’d call the person who led that process, Dr Hilary Cass, as a witness? Apparently not.

Or a member of the team from the University of York who carried out the independent, peer-reviewed study of the evidence base for the use of puberty blockers to treat gender-related distress? None of them were invited either.

Sarah Owen, the committee’s Labour chair, chose to hear from the former clinical director of the Gender Identity Development Service (Gids, the Tavistock children’s service roundly criticised and closed down as a consequence of the Cass Review); a professor in bioethics who has argued for close to two decades that it is unethical to deny children treatment with puberty blockers; and an emeritus professor of endocrinology who has never worked with gender-distressed children, nor contributed to the research in this area.

That the committee would try to better in two hours what the Cass Review spent four years carefully investigating is incomprehensible. As Barnes concludes, the only thing the committee has succeeded in is creating the impression that it seeks to undermine the Cass Review.

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duc748 · 26/01/2025 19:40

Labour politicians, too.

Harassedevictee · 26/01/2025 20:17

Unfortunately there are some people who are wedded to GI and TWAW, TMAM. To them the idea they might have got it wrong is unthinkable. However, Wes Streeting clearly listened and showed it is possible for politicians to change their position. Over time the £116k payout by the Civil Service should have an impact.

I do wish I could remember who said this but essentially, for some people, particularly parents and clinicians, letting go of their beliefs means they have to accept they supported children to take PB, cross sex hormones or have surgery when this may have not been in their best interests and left them with life long health problems e.g. sterilisation.

There will be children who had PB, cross sex hormones and surgery who bitterly regret it as adults. How, as a parent who gave consent, would you feel? It will take more legal case like Keira Bell to really convince some.

tobee · 26/01/2025 20:28

duc748 · 26/01/2025 19:40

Labour politicians, too.

Are they only Labour politicians? What's the breakdown on the committee?

Retiredfromthere · 26/01/2025 20:47

One of the Conservative spaces was given to Rosie Duffied (Indpendent) and there now is a Conservative member. Was not the case to start with. There are two LibDems and seven Labour. There may still be a Conservative vacancy?

committees.parliament.uk/committee/328/women-and-equalities-committee/membership/

tobee · 26/01/2025 20:51

Interesting

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 26/01/2025 20:54

They need to start listening and fast. The party is over.

TheSandgroper · 26/01/2025 23:03

@Harassedevictee It’s Helen Joyce who comments that parents and in particular mothers will be the last to recognise science because otherwise they must admit to harming their children.

IwantToRetire · 26/01/2025 23:20

There are 2 other threads about this, with links to other articles which (IMO!) are better than the one in the OP.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/01/2025 23:48

Such a good question OP. Given that the government have committed to implement Cass why are labour MPs openly trying to undermine the review?
Maybe more MPs getting freebies from Stonewall alies?

SmudgeHughes · 27/01/2025 09:48

Conservative chairs Maria Miller and Caroline Noakes presided over women and equalities committees that did their best to embed gender identity theory in British life and in all our institutions.

In 2016 the cross party Women and equalities select committee led by Conservative Maria Miller initiated a public inquiry into ‘transgender equality’.

Taking the Stonewall lead, the govt then committed itself to review the gender recognition act ‘to improve it in order to streamline and de-medicalise the gender recognition process’. The very highest bar was set for single sex exemptions under the equalities act.

The govt further noted that ‘there are likely to be few occasions in sport where exclusions are justified to ensure fair competition or the safety of competitors’.

In 2018 Theresa May launched an LGBT action plan in which the govt restated its intention to remove ‘bureaucratic and intrusive’ obstacles to legally acquiring a gender recognition certificate and to move to a more streamlined and de-medicalised process.

She also elevated former Stonewall chair Ruth Hunt to the Lords.

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