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The stranglehold of GI in Australia - finally an article/opinion in a major newspaper that sets it out

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SeethingHarpie · 04/01/2025 05:04

We have long been arguing against the thrall of GI ideology in Australia, only to have laws passed and sex-based rights obliterated by stealth by unheralded and undebated policy at all levels of government and society.

Australian children are totally unprotected against both the raging transagenda and extreme transmedical conveyer belt that has harmed so many children and youth.

GI ideology is rampant throughout political, social, educational and media spheres - with the punishment for dissent or merely stating biological reality sufficient to be prosecuted.

In many states:

birth certificates can be changed (to falsify natal sex, or even to classify a person as X ie. non binary), with people allowed to change their “gender” once every 12 months, parents can change the sex on birth certificates of their children up to age 10, and children over 10 can do so themselves.

parents can be prosecuted and have their child removed from their care if they disagree with affirming medicine and care.

teachers are obligated under law and educational guidance to report parents who do not immediately affirm a child declaring they are transgender, are expected to assist social transitions, and to keep the information from any parents who are “unsafe” and would not be open to their child transitioning.

students who declare themselves as transgender at any age (primary or secondary) are immediately permitted to use the opposite sex facilities, and any child who is uncomfortable or parent who objects or even questions are threatened with being reported to the Anti Discrimination Commission for prosecution.

the media has been totally captured - they have gleefully dismissed the Cass Report as irrelevant to Australia, and have continued to push the narrative that “transgender children will die if denied lifesaving gender affirming drugs and surgeries”, that protesting for women’s rights is “anti-trans”, and that people can actually change sex and only bigots say otherwise (and those bigots should be prosecuted/punished).

Given all the above, I couldn’t believe this article/opinion condemning issues regarding transing children, gender affirming medications and surgeries, and GI ideology has actually been published in my state newspaper. I sincerely hope it shocks, frightens, and encourages all who read it to find out more about the reality of GI Ideology and the damage it is doing to children, to women and to basic concept of biological reality.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/des-houghton/des-houghton-gender-activists-have-scored-a-resounding-victory/news-story/90e8973db6e4d031f170716a8b7d3ff4

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colinthedogfromaccounts · 05/01/2025 05:10

SeethingHarpie · 04/01/2025 11:38

Quite…

Also, even this “Daily Mail equivalent” has previously either not posted about this issue, or has been entirely captured and only gushed about GI and transgender issues. That ANY news outlet is posting something about the dangers of transgender medicine/drugs and lack of safeguarding vulnerable children is a positive I will gladly welcome.

As a person living in Queensland (home of the Courier Fail), I was just advising caution on the quality of the journalism.

Fact checking their articles is probably a good idea.

For reference they were the originating publication of the bullshit story about girls cutting holes in their school skirts and identifying as furries. I know it was a complete fabrication as my daughter was a student at the school in question at that time.

CrocsNotDocs · 05/01/2025 05:23

FreedomofGroovement · 04/01/2025 05:42

Hope this isn’t a derail but I find this fascinating since in general Australia has always seemed more small-c conservative to me (I’m watching from the UK). Eg with immigration etc. So how is it that this particular ideology has flourished seemingly without opposition?

This happens the world over- conservative societies finally break the shackles on socially progressive issues and swing like mad to the other way- Australia (in particular Tasmania) New Zealand, ROI and Canada spring to mind.

Its as if the citizenry are embarrassed and being left behind on social issues and overcorrect in fear of being called backward again.

CrocsNotDocs · 05/01/2025 05:28

colinthedogfromaccounts · 04/01/2025 08:22

Haven't read the article. Just a heads up the Courier Mail is the equivalent of the Daily Mail...

So what? Fuck off with your purity spirals. Fat lot of good the progressive media have done in Australia on this issue. Look at what The Age did to Julie Szego when she wrote from a gender critical position. They couldn’t sack her fast enough. The ABC is up to its neck in ACON. The Guardian Australia, Crikey, SMH- don’t make me laugh.

It’s the Daily Mails, the Courier Mails and The Australians that have been raising the issue. The progressive media can get in the bin.

OldCrone · 05/01/2025 06:35

colinthedogfromaccounts · 05/01/2025 05:10

As a person living in Queensland (home of the Courier Fail), I was just advising caution on the quality of the journalism.

Fact checking their articles is probably a good idea.

For reference they were the originating publication of the bullshit story about girls cutting holes in their school skirts and identifying as furries. I know it was a complete fabrication as my daughter was a student at the school in question at that time.

Edited

Having fact checked the article, which parts did you find to be inaccurate or untrue?

SeethingHarpie · 05/01/2025 06:45

Another opinion piece today in “The Courier-Mail” (does it need an apology or warning for some?)…

https://www.couriermail.com.au/health/the-british-government-has-banned-puberty-blockers-but-they-remain-legal-in-australia/news-story/f82ac654ad12a033e7bedd4bab431380

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SeethingHarpie · 05/01/2025 06:50

Archive link (hopefully).

https://archive.md/W4wti

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CrocsNotDocs · 05/01/2025 07:54

SeethingHarpie · 05/01/2025 06:45

Probably, so the purity spirallers and pearl-clutches can jump in to lecture us about What’s Allowed To Be Read before they swoon onto their fainting couches, lest they inadvertently catch a glimpse of an article that only Murdoch loving, bogan rightwing bigots would look at which will result in them having to sign themselves up for a DEI struggle session.

Sorry for the run on sentences. These sticks up their arse “I’m not clicking on a Daily Fail link” types are just the worst.

NotBadConsidering · 05/01/2025 08:15

Good news:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15eu16JmRB/?mibextid=wwXIfr

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2025 08:18

Is that 'safeguarding' being talked about? Looks promising.

CrocsNotDocs · 05/01/2025 08:19

NotBadConsidering · 05/01/2025 08:15

Excellent news. It seems that the reports of yesterday that the LNP would accept and implement the findings of that unbelievably biased review of children’s gender services were totally wrong.

I am a Queenslander and I know two girls that might be saved if the government acts fast.

anyolddinosaur · 05/01/2025 10:48

Well it looks as if sanity might return to one party at least.

I have spoilt my ballot - voting not compulsory here but have aways felt women fought so hard I should and couldnt vote for the local tory. Protect children from puberty blockers is a bit long but might be my choice.

FeralWoman · 05/01/2025 10:54

NotBadConsidering · 05/01/2025 08:15

That must be the only intelligent and good thing to have ever come out of Bleijie’s mouth.

I was reading the comments and someone pointed out that only yesterday it was announced that 25 recommendations from a committee would be implemented into the children’s gender service but today they’re announcing that no expansion etc will happen. Which is it?

There wasn’t any mention of this on the news. I watched channel 10, 7 and the ABC. Nothing. There was a bit of coverage about some argy bargey between the LNP and Labour. I think it was about when will the mid (financial) year budget be released. Labour said hurry up, LNP said we’ve only been in since October, give us some time.

Helleofabore · 05/01/2025 11:24

NotBadConsidering · 05/01/2025 08:15

That is heartening to see.

Helleofabore · 05/01/2025 11:29

FeralWoman · 05/01/2025 10:54

That must be the only intelligent and good thing to have ever come out of Bleijie’s mouth.

I was reading the comments and someone pointed out that only yesterday it was announced that 25 recommendations from a committee would be implemented into the children’s gender service but today they’re announcing that no expansion etc will happen. Which is it?

There wasn’t any mention of this on the news. I watched channel 10, 7 and the ABC. Nothing. There was a bit of coverage about some argy bargey between the LNP and Labour. I think it was about when will the mid (financial) year budget be released. Labour said hurry up, LNP said we’ve only been in since October, give us some time.

I was reading the comments feral and saw that. Hopefully clarity will be forthcoming.

i also noticed the immediate ‘what about abortion’ comment. Hmm. It is such a typical activist move. At least, I assumed it was an activist rather than just a big standard stirring troll.

FeralWoman · 05/01/2025 11:44

@Helleofabore Always the abortion comments on anything to do with women. Protecting the pre-born. Fuck off to those people commenting that sort of thing. I didn’t click on his name to check his profile. I remember celebrating when abortion was legalised in 2018. It felt like a monumental step forward for women. If this pack of LNP shitheads restrict it I’ll be furious.

Helleofabore · 05/01/2025 12:13

FeralWoman · 05/01/2025 11:44

@Helleofabore Always the abortion comments on anything to do with women. Protecting the pre-born. Fuck off to those people commenting that sort of thing. I didn’t click on his name to check his profile. I remember celebrating when abortion was legalised in 2018. It felt like a monumental step forward for women. If this pack of LNP shitheads restrict it I’ll be furious.

Oh fuck! I mean, I haven’t lived in qld for a long time now but how the fuck did I not know abortion was considered illegal until 2018? I lived there nearly half my life and thought it was legal already. That must have been because I chopped and changed states and just wrongly assumed.

NotYourCisterinAus · 05/01/2025 12:18

This issue has seen me drift to the right. The ABC and the Fairfax papers either don't report on it (or do rainbow-coloured puff pieces). Sky News and The Australian, on the other hand, <i>will </i> discuss the issue. I'm left wondering what else the media that I used to trust has been lying about and concealing.

Likewise, One Nation and some members of the LNP are trying to push against Gender Identity ideology, while Labor and the Greens rush to push affirmation only and self-ID policies.

Incidentally, I only became aware of the issue in the first place, because a bloke at work decided to "transition" and I decided to do some research. If I'd left it to the local media to learn about the topic, I'd be nearly as ignorant today as I was 10 years ago.

FeralWoman · 05/01/2025 12:47

@Helleofabore I didn’t realise that it was illegal until I was pregnant with DD and became aware that the large tertiary public hospital I used didn’t provide abortions unless it was an emergency. That seemed crazy to me. It wasn’t a religious hospital. That’s when I learnt that abortion was technically illegal but a blind eye was turned to it if a woman requested it. That also meant that women had to pay privately for it. I had wondered why when my fertility specialist referred me to a private ultrasound clinic for scans that he said that if there were any issues detected that they’d be able to arrange termination within the clinic’s staff. That made sense later on.

FeralWoman · 05/01/2025 12:50

@NotYourCisterinAus The ABC is a disgrace. It’s meant to be neutral. It’s not. They’ve just appointed a former channel 9 man as the boss so it’s not going to get better any time soon I don’t think. Ita destroyed it. I miss when Tony Jones hosted Q and A and it was a great show to watch. Not now.

Helleofabore · 05/01/2025 13:08

FeralWoman · 05/01/2025 12:47

@Helleofabore I didn’t realise that it was illegal until I was pregnant with DD and became aware that the large tertiary public hospital I used didn’t provide abortions unless it was an emergency. That seemed crazy to me. It wasn’t a religious hospital. That’s when I learnt that abortion was technically illegal but a blind eye was turned to it if a woman requested it. That also meant that women had to pay privately for it. I had wondered why when my fertility specialist referred me to a private ultrasound clinic for scans that he said that if there were any issues detected that they’d be able to arrange termination within the clinic’s staff. That made sense later on.

Ah! So I don’t feel so uninformed now. Because I have known women who have had them due to medical emergencies and so never thought more.

SeethingHarpie · 05/01/2025 13:24

Yes - the ABC is basically a lost cause. They still refer to Moria Deeming as being anti-trans, despite the case concluding.

News.com.au is just as bad. Everything is pro trans and affirmative care or the most disadvantaged will die. It also has a plethora of stories about how a 19 or 20 year old can easily afford a house - well, yes, they can if their Only Fans account pays well enough. It is horrid.

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NotYourCisterinAus · 05/01/2025 21:11

FeralWoman · 05/01/2025 12:50

@NotYourCisterinAus The ABC is a disgrace. It’s meant to be neutral. It’s not. They’ve just appointed a former channel 9 man as the boss so it’s not going to get better any time soon I don’t think. Ita destroyed it. I miss when Tony Jones hosted Q and A and it was a great show to watch. Not now.

I stopped watching it after the disgracefully biased way they reported the "Let Women Speak" rally in Melbourne. I'll occasionally listen to the news on my local radio station on the drive home, and that's it. I'm beginning to join the ranks of those who think that it should be defunded!

CrocsNotDocs · 05/01/2025 21:35

NotYourCisterinAus · 05/01/2025 21:11

I stopped watching it after the disgracefully biased way they reported the "Let Women Speak" rally in Melbourne. I'll occasionally listen to the news on my local radio station on the drive home, and that's it. I'm beginning to join the ranks of those who think that it should be defunded!

They are just awful and they twist everything. What they did (and are still doing) to Moria Deeming is fairly typical of them.

I recall watching two news segments on the same lockdown protest in Melbourne, one on Sky and one on the ABC.

Sky’s coverage showed lots of shots of the massive crowd- mainly small business people in the food industry- restaurant owners and cafe owners and the like. A majority not white- muslims, sikhs and people of all sorts of ethnic backgrounds. Typical Melbourne cafe people! Sky interviewed about half a dozen people. Most were just desperate small business people explaining that they were not anti vax or anti public health measures- they just wanted their businesses to survive. They did interview an anti vax person too.

The ABC’s coverage- no crowd shots at all so you couldn’t get a feel of the type of people. They interviewed 2 people- both white, both QAnon conspiracy nutters ranting on about poison in vaccines.

So 2 news reports. My woke friends who only watch the ABC to this day think any lockdown protests were just a few anti vax nuttters. Because they blindly trust the ABC and wouldn’t dream of watching or reading the right wing Murdoch owned hateful press.

That kind of thing is hard to defeat. If anyone lodged a complaint against the ABCs coverage what could they complain about? The ABC did cover the protests. It did interview people attending the protests. You can’t police tone apparently. It’s not what they say, it’s what they don’t cover, who they don’t interview and who they choose to interview.

Neodymium · 05/01/2025 21:42

Im Australian. I’m a teacher, and I would never speak out or share anything because I would lose my job. They fire people for saying anything. I’ve had to sit through training by a gender clinic run by our local council. During discussion time I did quietly discuss with my table mates that the premise was bullshit - but I wouldn’t speak up to the whole group.

not to mention my kids (tween and teen) who just accept that their friends call themselves trans, change their names and pronouns regularly and call me transphobic if I say anything to them. My daughter has even at times hinted that she thinks she is trans, but honestly it’s just the latest trend I think. so many kids seem to be doing it.

i know a teen girl who is 100% gay. It’s very obvious. She identifies as a boy from time to time. Never permanent just when it suits. Usually when she ‘likes’ a straight girl and then they can get together because it’s fine as she’s a boy now.

R053 · 05/01/2025 22:26

I suspect it’s less of an issue in Australia because it doesn’t affect the day to day life of most. A third of children are sent to private schools, which are not expected to comply with gender affirming principles on the basis of religious exemption. So even if you are a non religious family, you can side step it to some extent, as many send their kids to religious schools for a more traditional education.

However I can see that it’s making religious Australians more right wing in their outlook and they are becoming more political, whereas previously they were not. I know a few who have resigned from their jobs because of being expected to tow a gender affirming line or have been made to take compulsory gender affirming subjects in university degrees that don’t seem connected (like sport).

I feel like it is a trap and that an anti-identity, right-wing backlash will eventually come to Australia and take down many other vulnerable groups with it such as people with disabilities, ethnic minorities and particularly indigenous people (things are already dire for them).

Shutting people down and labelling them transphobes doesn’t work and is self defeating in the long term. It simply increases frustration rather than shame them into compliance and that’s why The Right has become such a broad church.