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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Northern Ireland: Court agrees to transfer transfer transwoman to a Women’s Prison

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Needmoresleep · 21/12/2024 08:41

Transgender woman wins court case for transfer to female prison https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2w3q10lno

The BelTel version of this story popped up in my feed. I am not from NI so don’t know more. I do know that the levels of violence against women are pretty shocking including seven murders. In a region that represents just 3% of the UK population.

A brown door with an insignia. On the top of the door the words 'The Royal Courts of Justice'

Transgender women wins legal case for women's prison transfer

Michelle James was transferred to Hydebank Wood after winning a case at the High Court.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g2w3q10lno

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 21/12/2024 10:10

Just came here to post that.

It's a somewhat confusing story because permission seems to have been granted both to transfer to a women's prison, and to be released back home.pending trial. I'm.not sure if that means he'd automatically go to a women's prison if convicted.

The justification seems very flimsy - threats to stab someone made indirectly mean he is safe, but if he'd told the intended victim in person he wouldn't have been?

Ramblingnamechanger · 21/12/2024 10:21

Still no excuse for this .disgusting.

MarieDeGournay · 21/12/2024 11:07

NI has either the highest, or 2nd highest rate of femicide in Western Europe.

The stats are unclear because some stats are about 'killing of women by intimate partner' whereas of course women are also killed by men who are not their intimate partner, just being a random representative of the female sex is a death sentence for some women.

There does seem to be a willingness in NI to name femicide and male violence against women as being male violence against women, across the border in the republic there seems to be an unwritten rule that you are not allowed make men look bad by mentioning the awkward fact that they are the perpetrators in the vast majority of cases, and the victims in very few.

So we get lots of talk about 'gender-based violence' 'people' 'victims' 'men are victims too' etc. - even a RCC reaction to the Pelicot case managed to get almost to the end without ever mentioning the words 'women' or 'men', it was all about 'victims of sexual violence' and 'people' using crisis services.

In fairness, the writer returned to reality in the last couple of paras and mentioned girls and women, but it was a surprise to see even this brief placing of the responsibility for male violence on males.

The man in this case threatened to kill his neighbour
"She said she would stab the neighbour and feel happy about it,"
and if he had gone through with it, the crime would have been recorded as committed by a woman!

Needmoresleep · 21/12/2024 11:42

It is an odd story.

More simply, if a man is considered violent enough to go to jail, he should go to a men's prison. Why is a court saying a woman's prison would be more suitable.

This court decision may prove to be a dangerous precedent.

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Justme56 · 21/12/2024 11:58

I believe they were moved to a female prison on the Thursday and then on the Friday were sent home (being kept in prison pre trial was seen as disproportionate to the alleged crime).

Needmoresleep · 21/12/2024 14:49

Coincidence or convenient - the day after the court rules they should be in a female prison the authorities decide they can be released into the community instead.

Perhaps the authorities did not want a potentially violent man in a female prison despite the court decision. Good for the authorities. Not good if it means that transwomen get more lenient treatment.

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Leafstamp · 21/12/2024 19:37

Do complain to the BBc about their article

x.com/fairplaywomen/status/1870370037065760927?s=46

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