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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scottish school - hidden camera found in mixed sex toilets

43 replies

ArabellaScott · 20/12/2024 11:41

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mum-traumatised-teen-who-found-34346272

'Mum of "traumatised" teen who found hidden camera filming naked girls in Dundee school blasts unisex toilets'

I hope the girls affected have good support.

And the idiots who pushed this on them understand their culpability.

'"My daughter told me that she looked at the camera roll and there were hundreds of videos and images of girls naked in changing rooms and using the toilet.
"I got her home from school that afternoon and she was extremely traumatised by it all. She has been in a state since then and is completely refusing to go back to school."
The school has unisex toilets and Emma has now slammed Dundee City Council over a lack of single-sex sanitary facilities, which she believes is putting young girls at risk.
She continued: "School is meant to be the one place where we can send our children and know that they are safe but where is the safeguarding when this can happen?
"If it wasn't for the mixed toilets then this just would never have happened.
"This is something that a lot of parents have been concerned about for a number of years and since I spoke out about what happened to my daughter, loads of people have come forward and agreed that unisex toilets are huge issue.
"This boy would simply not have had access to the girls toilets otherwise.
"I will be looking for assurances from the council that they are going to do something to make sure our children are safe before I even consider sending my daughter back to that school."
Emma said she has contacted the council, but it has refused to discuss the matter further with her due to it being a live police investigation.'

Mum of teen who discovered camera filming naked girls blasts unisex toilets

Police are investigating after a camera was discovered at a high school in the city earlier this week.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mum-traumatised-teen-who-found-34346272

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SinnerBoy · 20/12/2024 13:15

Yes, but they decided to push the boundaries, by having individual cubicles, with floor to ceiling doors. There were cases of boys kicking the doors open, with one girl ending up with a concussion, last year.

It's bloody insane, these ideologues just refuse to admit that they are wrong, wrong, wrong. They don't give a shit that girls are going all day without drinking, to avoid going to the toilet. The don't care one bit about the effects on both their physical and mental health.

Supporterofwomensrights · 20/12/2024 13:21

Thank you for posting.

The people who support mixed sex facilities are monumentally stupid, incompentent and/or evil.

greyspring · 20/12/2024 13:30

They don't give a shit that girls are going all day without drinking, to avoid going to the toilet. The don't care one bit about the effects on both their physical and mental health

No they don't. That's the truth of it. They have not bothered to ask girls what they thought before doing this nor to research the effects. Nor to apply a bit of common sense that this was not a good idea.
They just don't care. They care about being seen as 'progressive'. They are sheep, not leaders.

SinnerBoy · 20/12/2024 15:15

greyspring · Today 13:30

My daughter is Y7, middle school and they have separate toilets and no mixed sports this year (after Y6). Shed be raging if she had to go to the loo with boys.

EvelynBeatrice · 20/12/2024 15:23

The only answer is a very noisy press saturated class legal action.

LoobiJee · 20/12/2024 15:23

duc748 · 20/12/2024 12:30

From Arabella's link:

...Indeed, we all use gender neutral toilets every day without thinking about it - on planes, trains, and most importantly - in our homes.”

Yes, it seems, people really have been using this brain-dead argument since 2017! 🙄Either we have a complete lack of critical thinking here, or, something worse.

What do they mean: “without thinking about it”?

I think about the risk of hidden cameras every time I have to use a toilet facility that males have access to.

And women aren’t safe from hidden cameras in their own home if men have access to that either. Whether that’s their husband, boyfriend, father, landlord otherwise other male.

LoobiJee · 20/12/2024 15:28

Supporterofwomensrights · 20/12/2024 13:21

Thank you for posting.

The people who support mixed sex facilities are monumentally stupid, incompentent and/or evil.

And/or lazy, complacent, self-serving careerist cowards.

fromorbit · 20/12/2024 16:13

JKR on point

J.K. Rowling

Who could possibly have foreseen this?* *Women who attended mixed sex schools. For years, we've warned unisex facilities made voyeurism and harassment laughably easy, and argued that girls deserved privacy and dignity. In return, we were called pearl-clutchers, bigots and Nazis.

It was the front page of the Record. The question is will enough people demand action or are we going to put up with this.

x.com

https://x.com/jk_rowling

INeedAPensieve · 20/12/2024 16:29

ArabellaScott · 20/12/2024 12:43

We were browbeaten and manipulated and threatened into accepting the bullshit narrative that including males in women's single sex facilities and spaces was best for everyone.

That's how it happened. Critical thinking was branded bigotry. Women who raised concerns were called transphobic, homophobic, and 'probably racist'.

Another day, another reminder of how utterly raging I am with Nicola sturgeon saying that speech. The absolute betrayal of women and girls. I actually cannot get over the rage...

leakycauldron · 20/12/2024 16:45

This is awful, but sadly not at all surprising!

Wonder if they can trace who put it there?

. We recently had our bathroom done and it did occur to me that they could have hidden a camera and we'd be non the wiser!

there must be gadgets you can get that "jam" hidden cameras...

Lovelyview · 20/12/2024 16:49

Our local swimming pool has just changed the male and female changing rooms into a mixed sex 'changing village' I wonder if they've got any plans to stop cameras and phones being planted. Is it possible to detect them?

Heffapotamus · 20/12/2024 17:00

It's a school that's been built within the last 10 years or so...

Orland0 · 20/12/2024 17:27

My quote of @Lovelyview disappeared!

My local pool has a ‘changing village’ set-up. I go a couple of times a week - it’s something I need in my life - but I have a changing robe thing that I pull on to take off wet swimwear underneath, I’m never visibly naked. It’s extra room in my bag, and I shouldn’t need it for peace of mind, but I do.

This was absolutely inevitable, and is probably going on undetected in other schools around the country. I hope those poor girls demonstrate loudly outside the school and bring nationwide attention to that shitshow of a school. And a class action suit from the parents would be great.

Womanofcustard · 20/12/2024 17:32

I’d be taking the school to court if I was the parents of the girls affected.
lets hope there will be that, or a class action. Name the people who forced this through!

Lovelyview · 20/12/2024 17:32

Orland0 · 20/12/2024 17:27

My quote of @Lovelyview disappeared!

My local pool has a ‘changing village’ set-up. I go a couple of times a week - it’s something I need in my life - but I have a changing robe thing that I pull on to take off wet swimwear underneath, I’m never visibly naked. It’s extra room in my bag, and I shouldn’t need it for peace of mind, but I do.

This was absolutely inevitable, and is probably going on undetected in other schools around the country. I hope those poor girls demonstrate loudly outside the school and bring nationwide attention to that shitshow of a school. And a class action suit from the parents would be great.

Edited

That's a good idea. The old changing rooms had family changing rooms so had areas that were mixed sex. I last went with a child about 8 years ago and it would never have occurred to me that someone could plant a recording device. Now I wouldn't assume anywhere was secure - mixed sex or not.

SinnerBoy · 20/12/2024 17:58

leakycauldron · Today 16:45

Wonder if they can trace who put it there?

They have arrested a 15 year old boy.

RedToothBrush · 20/12/2024 19:57

duc748 · 20/12/2024 12:30

From Arabella's link:

...Indeed, we all use gender neutral toilets every day without thinking about it - on planes, trains, and most importantly - in our homes.”

Yes, it seems, people really have been using this brain-dead argument since 2017! 🙄Either we have a complete lack of critical thinking here, or, something worse.

The strange thing about my 'gender neutral' toilet at home is that DH and DS don't actually use the same toilet as me at home. And I certainly don't share it with men I don't know.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 21/12/2024 20:11

Isn't the 15 year old boy a "young vulnerable child" but apparently had the wherewithal to install a camera to spy on little girls.

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