Womens March 2025, so disappointed

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I was going to attend as my first ever March, protesting violence against women.

I just know if I say anything in the group I'll be kicked out.

So fed up of this shite.

I see your point - it’s not a women’s march if it includes men. So to quote the screenshot, it’s meaningless.

Let's pause for a moment to think about that claim mathematically.

50-51% of the human world is female. A tiny minority of those female people identify as trans. 49-50% of humanity is male. A tiny minority of the male people identity as trans.

Let us suppose a women's feminist group solely focuses on issues that impact females, without troubling itself with anything that exclusively affects trans identifying people. Off the top of my head, that work could encompass banning child marriage, enacting equal pay for equal work, resolving medical misogyny that means women are offered less or no pain relief compared to similar procedures performed on male patients, creating networks of refuges for female victims of domestic violence, widening access to education for women and girls across the world, ending female genital mutilation, reducing the sexual assault rate...

But all of that would be meaningless if the group didn't focus on the priorities of a tiny number of male people?

Interesting.

Imagine telling a volunteer at the Cats Protection League that her work to reduce cruelty to cats was meaningless if she didn't also work on issues affecting a particular rare dog breed.

You just wouldn't, would you? In fact, imagine telling that volunteer that her work for Cats Protection was meaningless unless she also put in effort to working for transwomen as part of it. It's mad, isn't it? Improving animal welfare has inherent value even if it doesn't benefit humans, because these creatures have the capacity to suffer!

So why is it reasonable to devalue any work for being solely focused on reducing cruelty to women? We have the capacity to suffer.

"Trans people are always included when I refer to reproductive rights"

I wonder if that means the organisers of Women's March 2025 are completely against experimental hormones for the pre-pubescent until it is conclusively proven that they pose no risk to the long-term fertility of the confused and unhappy teens who wish to take them?

I would bet my fucking house it doesn't.

nice try (sort of) but thats bollocks. Imagine a mathematics conference with world class experts, and one nutter who not only believed that 2+2=5 but insisted everyone had to believe, and say they too believed that 2+2=5. The whole thing goes to ratshit right there and then-because 2+2=4, not 5.

What a win for the patriarchy.

Exactly.

I just know so, so, so many women would disagree too but couldn't say anything

It's the definition of silencing women!

There are a couple of people on this thread that have strayed from the approved line and been kicked out of the group. I see a trans member has now posted about Barbara Banda.

Agree OP. I saw this on TikTok first and was really keen to go along and get involved. So I joined the FB group. I left very soon after when it became clear it was all about men, and woe betide any woman who dares to speak against that.

Isn't it just. After 100+ years of fighting for our rights, we now must include men and think of them in everything otherwise fighting for our rights is meaningless.
Why would we want any right that clashes with a male's right to whatever they want?

Doesn't surprise me that Hannah Kitching (Lib Dem Councillor) appears on the post. There is a whole thread allocated to her response when asked about her thoughts on single sex spaces, etc and she even made it onto the Critic magazine:

"The Liberal Democrats in their 2019 manifesto vowed “a complete reform of the Gender Recognition Act to remove the requirement for medical reports, scrap the fee and recognise non-binary identities’. They have not been called upon to make their current position clear but there are clearly rabid ideologues amongst them, such as Hannah Kitching, the candidate for South Yorkshire Mayor in 2024 who responded to emails from constituents calling them “transphobic bigots”.

Ah, I though the name was familiar

Meaningless as in worthless? So, the help given to women by somewhere like Beira’s Place has no worth because giving vital support to mere women has no value? What a load of nasty, misogynistic bollocks.

Please join this Mumsnet thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5228413-the-womens-march-thats-all-about-the-men?reply=140466831
I was one of the main organisers and left / was pushed out. Myself and another woman are trying to take action against them. Join the thread to keep up to date with it.