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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Inappropriate kids boo for Christmas

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PearlCritic · 15/12/2024 22:21

My neighbours invited us over for a Christmas drink and gave my 4 year old daughter Juno Dawson’s children’s book You Need to Chill as a Christmas gift. To summarise it’s a picture book showing a little girl missing her brother and looking for him only for him to reappear as her ‘sister’ at the end. I hadn’t seen the book when it was gifted and my husband read it at bedtime for my 6 year old son and my daughter without realising the content. It’s the second time we have ended up inadvertently having kids books pushing gender ideology at bedtime (the other from the library) mainly because my husband hasn’t been vetting what he’s reading but also how is it this hard to avoid for kids this young? The neighbours are really lovely and the wife who would have picked the gift is an early childhood educator so while I want to believe it was an accidental pick, can I ignore the strange content? What would you do?

I can’t seem to edit the title, should say book not boo

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/12/2024 09:36

NoIdeaWhatsHappeningHere · 16/12/2024 09:33

Depends how you define bad, but they feature children who have adopted a gender identity that is not their sex. The language around it was not at all what I wanted my children to hear, ie when they were born 'the doctor and the parents thought they were X but they were actually Y'

Thanks, I won't be buying those then.

JeremiahBullfrog · 16/12/2024 09:45

Sounds positively tame by Dawson's standards. But I suppose even he can't get away with sexually explicit material for 4-year-olds. Needs to wait until they're at least 10.

Catabogus · 16/12/2024 09:48

NoIdeaWhatsHappeningHere · 16/12/2024 09:33

Depends how you define bad, but they feature children who have adopted a gender identity that is not their sex. The language around it was not at all what I wanted my children to hear, ie when they were born 'the doctor and the parents thought they were X but they were actually Y'

Are there stories in the second volume of this that include biological males? I haven’t come across any yet, but am only part-way through. It would be good to have a heads-up in advance if so.

My daughter LOVED the first volume so I just glued shut the page that had the boy on!

Pinkpantherstrikes · 16/12/2024 09:53

This is depressing ! Who actually thinks these books are a good idea for little kids?!
Id definitely be inclined to ask neighbours if they realised its contents. If it was unintentional then leave it there-if they knew, then I’d be making it clear I didn’t want my very young kids being introduced to this subject. I’d then be keeping my distance from them!
So glad I grew up reading Black Beauty and Secret seven.

bunnypenny · 16/12/2024 10:04

My son was given a similar book when he was 4, called “I am NOT a prince”, a book about a frog who decides it doesn’t want to be a prince, goes off to find itself, then ends up going through a magical rainbow, and announces it’s in fact a princess.

it went in the bin.

WarriorN · 16/12/2024 10:38

www.transgendertrend.com/trans-picture-books-little-children/

www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-scheme-teaching-children-trans/

That book is very coercive and tells girls to accept reduced boundaries.

These are two articles by transgender trend that include the book.

File under B for bin.

Switcher · 16/12/2024 10:40

Bin the book, say nothing, don't discuss it with your kids either.

chattyness · 16/12/2024 10:46

I would actually hand it back to them and say thank you for the gift but this is inappropriate & not the kind of book I would want my child reading ever.

H34th · 16/12/2024 12:02

I would

  1. Bin
  2. Speak to neighbour nicely so she can hear a parent's view about it and not gift to others
  3. Go to Amazon an write a review to make other people considering to buy as a gift think twice
Jostuki · 16/12/2024 12:09

I have never bought a book for a child without thoroughly checking that it was suitable.

Educator? Most likely a Lefty pushing their agenda.

I'd give the book back to her and tell her why it's unsuitable.

lillylallylu · 16/12/2024 12:15

is she a secret TRA and does she know you're GC? Seems like a very odd book choice unless she's deliberately trying to rile you.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 16/12/2024 12:19

PearlCritic · 16/12/2024 09:07

This struck me on the title too. It is saying to kids that they should definitely be suppressing their instinct that something is wrong. I am attaching a page from the book showing the trans “supporters” that actually are holding signs saying ‘Calm Down’ and ‘Don’t be silly’. It is so horrible!

It's like a grim child's guide to coercive control isn't it? Such a male attitude to children - there to be manipulated out of their boundaries.

Red flags all the way 🚩 🚩 🚩

Leafstamp · 16/12/2024 16:19

H34th · 16/12/2024 12:02

I would

  1. Bin
  2. Speak to neighbour nicely so she can hear a parent's view about it and not gift to others
  3. Go to Amazon an write a review to make other people considering to buy as a gift think twice

This is what I would do too.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 16/12/2024 16:34

Actually, ‘boo’ is pretty appropriate.

DialSquare · 16/12/2024 19:55

Bin it and replace it with My Body is Me! by Rachel Rooney

Riapia · 16/12/2024 20:25

Don’t just bin it. Shred it or burn it.
That book is attempting to infiltrate a very young child’s mind.
Don’t risk another child getting access to it.

DisappearingGirl · 16/12/2024 20:53

"Hun, you need to chill, he'll only need his penis inverted and sterilising hormones"

Heylo · 16/12/2024 22:03

PearlCritic · 15/12/2024 22:21

My neighbours invited us over for a Christmas drink and gave my 4 year old daughter Juno Dawson’s children’s book You Need to Chill as a Christmas gift. To summarise it’s a picture book showing a little girl missing her brother and looking for him only for him to reappear as her ‘sister’ at the end. I hadn’t seen the book when it was gifted and my husband read it at bedtime for my 6 year old son and my daughter without realising the content. It’s the second time we have ended up inadvertently having kids books pushing gender ideology at bedtime (the other from the library) mainly because my husband hasn’t been vetting what he’s reading but also how is it this hard to avoid for kids this young? The neighbours are really lovely and the wife who would have picked the gift is an early childhood educator so while I want to believe it was an accidental pick, can I ignore the strange content? What would you do?

I can’t seem to edit the title, should say book not boo

There is nothing accidental about giving a child that book. Keep that woman away from your kids

TempestTost · 16/12/2024 22:54

It's so bizarre. I can't imagine giving kids a political or religious book unless I was really very close to them and the parents. And even then I'd be pretty careful about it.

Who gives a book with controversial social content to the neighbour's kids?

CarolinaWren · 17/12/2024 06:02

TempestTost · 16/12/2024 22:54

It's so bizarre. I can't imagine giving kids a political or religious book unless I was really very close to them and the parents. And even then I'd be pretty careful about it.

Who gives a book with controversial social content to the neighbour's kids?

I suspect that she regularly tries to push her beliefs on other people's children, as she works as an early childhood educator. She probably thinks she knows better than the OP.

Grammarnut · 17/12/2024 22:33

Don't give the book to a charity shop, some other unsuspecting parent will pick it up. But why did DH not read the book before he read it to DC? Elementary precaution?
I probably wouldn't say anything to the mum next door, but watch out for further gifts. NB teachers are among the most captured re TWAW.
NB Bin book.

Grammarnut · 17/12/2024 22:34

Leafstamp · 16/12/2024 16:19

This is what I would do too.

Unless you bought the book from Amazon it's nigh on impossible to write a review.

Grammarnut · 17/12/2024 22:44

NoIdeaWhatsHappeningHere · 16/12/2024 09:23

Yeah that would go straight into the recycling.

I did the same with the goodnight stories for rebel boys/girls books. Didn't put them into charity, I binned them. The only time I've ever binned books!

I am curious. What's wrong with reading about Alexander the Great or the Wright Brothers or Marie Curie etc? I think that's a good idea. Have just given my step-great-grandson a book on ancient and medieval battles. It pays to know about Thermopylae or the battle of Actium as well as being interesting.

NoIdeaWhatsHappeningHere · 18/12/2024 07:35

Grammarnut · 17/12/2024 22:44

I am curious. What's wrong with reading about Alexander the Great or the Wright Brothers or Marie Curie etc? I think that's a good idea. Have just given my step-great-grandson a book on ancient and medieval battles. It pays to know about Thermopylae or the battle of Actium as well as being interesting.

Edited

Well of course I want them to read about history and great figures. My kids are total history buffs, and science too.

I'm teaching them that their body is their body, it is perfect as it is and they are who are born as. They are enough. And there are certain biological realities that can't be changed (race, height, age, sex for example). These books do not encourage that thinking with some of their language.

That said I will issue a retraction - I checked back through my messages and it was '100 Boys Who Dare to be Different' that was the book that went in the bin for us. Within the first 7 pages, there were 2 'born in the wrong body' stories. It went into the bin before the 8th page.

Justme56 · 18/12/2024 09:39

It appears that even Disney are starting to see the issues.

Inappropriate kids boo for Christmas