Lesbian Greens speak up for child healthcare

[Hairyesterdaygonetoday]

I know the Green Party is a travesty at present, totally captured by transactivists. The latest is two Green MPs opposing the government’s ban on puberty blockers for children.

But many members still hold to its original principles and support women’s rights and child safeguarding.

Lesbian Greens sent this open letter to the party executive yesterday.

https://lesbiangreens.uk/open-letter-to-green-party-executive-gpex/

Great letter, thank you for sharing.

I particularly like that this is the lead point about the dangers of PBs:

So-called ‘puberty blockers’ target the pituitary gland and could have damaging effects on brain development. They interrupt natural developmental processes and interfere with normal adolescent brain changes crucial for social bonding, emotional regulation and learning to think independently.

The impact on fertility and bones is bad enough but brain development (or lack of) is fundamental to successfully growing up from being a child to being an adult.

Unfortunately, it does seem to contain misinformation about the use of PBs in precocious puberty. It's not typically a 6 month period, it's until an age when puberty would be more appropriate. So a 3 year old who started puberty might be on them until the age of 8 or 9.

The key point being that puberty is allowed to start and complete in this scenario. Whereas in their use for gender dysphoria, it is not. PBs are taken throughout the expected development window of the physical changes that would be expected during puberty. Stopping them after the age of 17/18 (by which point cross sex hormones might also be being used, to create a synthetically-induced copy of the secondary sex characteristics of the opposite sex) will mean that crucial brain development has been entirely missed - and can never happen. Here's Sallie Baxendale on this:

Thanks for that useful info, BonfireLady.

It is frustrating that so many people, including elected MPs, seem to not grasp the difference between the use for precocious puberty and in adolescence. Well done to the Lesbian Greens. I believe Shahrar Ali is going back to court because they are still discriminating against him for his gender critical beliefs too.

Now Darren Johnson, a former London Assembly member, councillor and Principal Speaker for the Green Party, has resigned after 37 years’ membership.

Noting that the party has badly lost its way, he says he is appalled by the Green Party’s refusal to accept the findings of the Cass Review… [and that] Green MPs are still acting as cheerleaders for these discredited and now banned drugs.

https://x.com/GWDeclaration/status/1867880446161535020?t=_thtGUY370E9qDxYB30tPA&s=19

So-called ‘puberty blockers’ target the pituitary gland and could have damaging effects on brain development. They interrupt natural developmental processes and interfere with normal adolescent brain changes crucial for social bonding, emotional regulation and learning to think independently.

Thanks bonfire, this does seem to be something that some activists like to gloss over, while showing signs that this effect has indeed impacted brain maturity.

It is frustrating that so many people, including elected MPs, seem to not grasp the difference between the use for precocious puberty and in adolescence.

I agree, Lovelyview. The drugs are valuable for their correct purpose, preventing the harm caused by premature puberty. But using powerful drugs to try to prevent the body’s natural development, at the right time, is insanity.

Indeed.

This thread got me thinking even more about the brain development side of things. I had time to kill (I was in a cafe while waiting for a children's Christmas party to finish - it was too far from home to warrant dropping off and returning)... and I added my musings to a thread about PBs:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/5228433-ban-on-puberty-blockers-to-be-made-indefinite-on-experts-advice?reply=140537185&utmcampaign=reply&utmmedium=share

Obviously I don't want to derail this thread so back on the topic of the Greens:

Perhaps the ridiculous behaviour of Sian Berry and Carla Denyer in parliament, now that we're at the stage where even the Health Secretary is calling it a medical scandal (Victoria Atkins wasn't far off saying it herself back in April, when she was the Health Secretary under the Tory government) is exactly what we needed for a letter like this to have an impact. I have no idea how many people will listen to "a bunch of leftie lesbians", as some people will see it, but every single avenue of sunlight helps to show just how out of touch people like Berry and Denyer are when they advocate for distressed children to have access to medical interventions that carry safety risks.

Well done to the Lesbian Greens. Well done to Sharar Ali, Darren Johnson, Pallavi Devulapalli and every single Green Party member who is upholding sanity and standing up against this.

For completeness, here's a thread I posted about the previous Health Secretary leading the charge on a common sense debate in the House of Commons regarding the subject of medical support for children who experience gender dysphoria. The link that I put in the OP no longer works but if anyone does want to watch the debate, there's a link that does work a few comments down:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/5050831-debate-happening-in-house-of-commons-victoria-atkins-on-fire

Well done the Lesbian Greens for speaking out. But what an embarrassment the Greens have become. A shame so many people with integrity decide they have to jump ship - but totally understandable.

I agree, well done Lesbian Green's for speaking up, these idiots must be called out for what they say from the inside as well as the outside.

Thanks for all the links.

Yes, well done those women; especially since they're likely to be abused by their own party. It's very brave of them.

My younger brother, a lifelong environmentalist, resigned from the Greens a few years back after he became aware of their commitment to gender ideology. His daughter has complex MH issues (not related to gender) but he is very much aware of the vulnerability of children and adolescents to social pressures.