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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How do you begin to explain misogyny and its impact in simple terms?

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RedAppleMedium · 01/12/2024 20:35

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OP posts:
Bannedontherun · 01/12/2024 22:09

I think the unfolding story of Wallace really sums it up.

Thelnebriati · 01/12/2024 22:12

One group of people decide they are superior to another group of people, and use that superiority to excuse their behaviour. When men do this to women we call it misogyny.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 01/12/2024 22:18

Who to? An explanation for a 5 year old would be very different from one for a civil service working group.

Circumferences · 01/12/2024 22:23

I wonder though that "superiority" is a somewhat sanitized explanation.

Misogyny comes from a place of real hatred, but the hatred is so "natural" it's not even noticeable, not even to our own sons, men do in fact hate us for our reproductive role. They want to fuck us and want us to stay under their control.
It appears in every walk of life, women's exclusion from political power for example.

NotJaime · 01/12/2024 22:23

everything men fear AI and the rise of the machines will do to them - they are already doing to women and children - only worse

it’s called misogyny rather than oppression so men can pretend it won’t ever happen to them

Circumferences · 01/12/2024 22:25

NotJaime · 01/12/2024 22:23

everything men fear AI and the rise of the machines will do to them - they are already doing to women and children - only worse

it’s called misogyny rather than oppression so men can pretend it won’t ever happen to them

I don't think a computer will want to fuck Nigel up the bum 🤣

NotJaime · 01/12/2024 22:36

Circumferences · 01/12/2024 22:25

I don't think a computer will want to fuck Nigel up the bum 🤣

Rape and buggery is not about wanting sex it’s about power and control.

That currently happening to women and children might be hilarious to some.

Maybe it’ll be just as funny happening to those laughing in the future.

Or whatever else humiliating and subjugating behaviour oppressors devise.

DuesToTheDirt · 02/12/2024 10:28

I was thinking about misogyny in bed last night....

From Barbra Banda winning a women's award, to the plight of women in Afghanistan, to the ordeal of Gisele Pelicot, it all comes down to the same thing. Women don't matter. Men come first, however devastating their actions and behaviours are to women.

UnrelatedTo · 02/12/2024 10:32

To whom are you explaining it, and why?

99point6 · 02/12/2024 11:21

Men won't hear your explanation.

LilyBartsHatShop · 02/12/2024 12:26

Interesting exercise. Also curious about what's motivating you to ask, OP.
I think I'd start somewhere around existential vulnerabilities, the way that male people so often react to their contingency with fear and hatred of the one whose body they owe their very existence to, which extends to fear and hatred of all female people, and femaleness itself.
Female people can also react to the same existential frailty and vulnerability in the same way but it takes a masochistic turn.

DuesToTheDirt · 03/12/2024 19:31

A pertinent quote today from the father of an Italian woman murdered by her ex-boyfriend, that made me think of this thread.

“If you’re a man you’re part of a system that teaches you that you are worth more than women,” Mr Cecchettin told the BBC.
“It means that if you’re in a relationship everything needs to go through you... and so a patriarch can’t be told: ‘I don’t love you anymore’, because it goes against his sense of ownership.”

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyjnp74jldo

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