LGB Alliance is intervening along with lesbian groups to spell out why defining what is a woman is crucial for those who are same sex attracted

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On 26-27 November the UK Supreme Court will consider a question over which politicians continually stumble but that all reasonable people can answer without difficulty – what is a woman? In a case brought by For Women Scotland, the Court will decide whether the administrative process of awarding of a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC) turns a man into a woman for “all purposes”, and in doing so, removes the protections for women outlined in the Equality Act 2010.

This case is crucial for lesbians, and LGB Alliance is intervening along with lesbian groups to spell out why. Apparently it is not obvious. When the Equality and Human Rights Commission noted to the Inner Court of Session “If sex means legal sex, then sexual orientation changes on acquiring a GRC”, Lady Haldane responded in her judgment: “We confess that we have not found it easy to follow this particular submission. It is not a necessary inference from Section 9 of the GRA that a person’s sexual orientation changes on acquiring a GRC. There is no such thing as being ‘legally lesbian’ and we have not identified a problem which would require that sex be referable to biology alone.”

No one is sexually attracted to a certificate. It should be clear that the sexual orientation of lesbians – and indeed of anyone else – is about physical characteristics and not paperwork. The definition of sexual orientation in the Equality Act 2010 hinges on the definition of sex in that Act.

LGB Alliance was pleased to be given permission to submit evidence as an Intervener because it was deemed we raised “novel, important and relevant points of law”. These relate specifically to the impact on lesbians of men who apply for a GRC and, subsequently,
call themselves lesbians.

Full statement here https://lgballiance.org.uk/what-is-a-woman-lgb-alliance-intervenes-in-a-landmark-case/

(I know there's an existing thread about the court case, but feel it is important to spell out how the TWAW narrative impacts on lesbians as this often gets overlooked.)

No one is sexually attracted to a certificate.

And at the end of the thread reader for the afternoon session, "lesbian submissions" were thanked.

Yes, that was a mistake, it was Sex Matters who was thanked.

Everything crossed that reality is agreed over pretendy ideology.

In the gay bars favoured by Chris Tinapple, one might find a few women-who-say-they're-men stroking their freshly-grown beards as they lounge in what they hope is a masculine fashion, trying not to look short and small of hand. The other gay men will be nice to them but will absolutely not invite them over for a poppers-fuelled social mingling session after closing time. They'd be horrified at the prospect.

Mysteriously, the spurned 'trans men' won't force their presence on the (bigger and stronger) gay men, though they will whine on Reddit about transphobic exclusion. The gay men will lecture gay women on TWAW, oblivious to their own hypocrisy because they simply cannot understand anyone not liking dick.

So, males claim the right to determine whom females may not fuck, and whom they must. What a stunning departure from all of recorded history.

Btw, the judge is reported as finding lesbians' submissions v helpful.

@Garlicpest

Tribunal Tweets meant to say Sex Matters, not "lesbians". I watched and TT have corrected later in a further tweet. The submissions for Scottish Lesbians, LGBA and The Lesbian Project were written submissions. Sex Matters' were oral. Not to say they wouldn't find the lesbian groups' submissions helpful, I'm sure they will!

Ah, OK. Thanks, @Ereshkigalangcleg.

From Facebook:

LGB Alliance UK

It was vital that we, alongside lesbian groups, intervened at the Supreme Court to defend lesbian rights.

Today we heard the Scottish Government argue the absurd: that a Gender Recognition Certificate turns a heterosexual man into a lesbian.

Laughable, but deadly serious