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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

MAJOR NEWS - NZ restricts Puberty Blockers

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fromorbit · 21/11/2024 08:12

After examining the evidence NZ health ministry comes to the conclusion which many other countries have:

Additional safeguards for puberty blockers
Publication date:21 November 2024
The Ministry of Health is today releasing an evidence brief and position statement on the use of puberty blockers for gender identity issues and outlining a more cautious approach to their use.
The evidence brief shows a lack of good quality evidence to back the effectiveness and safety of puberty blockers when used for this purpose...

The appropriate and safe care for this group of young people is critically important.
Any additional safeguards in the form of regulations would be to protect against the risk of future harm to vulnerable individuals.

https://www.health.govt.nz/news/additional-safeguards-for-puberty-blockers

The dominos are continuing to fall.
It was all lies.
The TERFs were right.

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StealthSpinach · 21/11/2024 08:21

I didn’t see this coming - especially after the treatment of KJK there…

I wonder how long Australian decision makers will take to dismiss this development as irrelevant to Australians, just as they did the Cass Report in UK.

GrouchyKiwi · 21/11/2024 08:23

Excellent news.

borntobequiet · 21/11/2024 08:29

Great news.

I have close family in NZ so take a close interest.

ChaChaChooey · 21/11/2024 08:34

Wow. Didn’t see NZ doing this anytime soon! That’ll cause some conniptions - American and U.K. TRAs have NZ on their ‘safe countries to run to from Trumptown/Terf Island’ list.

Fantastic for the physical well being of NZ kids tho!

fromorbit · 21/11/2024 08:47

StealthSpinach · 21/11/2024 08:21

I didn’t see this coming - especially after the treatment of KJK there…

I wonder how long Australian decision makers will take to dismiss this development as irrelevant to Australians, just as they did the Cass Report in UK.

The problem for the genderists is that biology and science are actually REAL. Unless they stop scientific analysis of their claims altogether, or get control to cook the results, they are always going to fail reviews if you get normal neutral medical specialists to review their claims in depth.

Puberty blockers have failed reviews in the following places:
UK, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, now NZ.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/11/2024 08:54

Good. Another small step in protecting vulnerable children from all this.

StealthSpinach · 21/11/2024 09:01

fromorbit · 21/11/2024 08:47

The problem for the genderists is that biology and science are actually REAL. Unless they stop scientific analysis of their claims altogether, or get control to cook the results, they are always going to fail reviews if you get normal neutral medical specialists to review their claims in depth.

Puberty blockers have failed reviews in the following places:
UK, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, now NZ.

Yes - the problem in Australia is that we don’t have “normal neutral medical specialists” in charge! We have medical/scientific/political “experts” who totally disregard any evidence that doesn’t support their genderist narrative and laws.

Helleofabore · 21/11/2024 09:01

Thank you fromorbit, that is great news.

RubyTrees · 21/11/2024 09:03

StealthSpinach · 21/11/2024 08:21

I didn’t see this coming - especially after the treatment of KJK there…

I wonder how long Australian decision makers will take to dismiss this development as irrelevant to Australians, just as they did the Cass Report in UK.

I remember watching the live stream of the LWS event in Auckland and thinking KJK wouldn’t make it out of there - those scenes were truly horrific.

https://savageminds.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-the-near-murder-of-kellie

Anatomy of the Near Murder of Kellie-Jay Keen

How Legacy Media and Purity Feminists Created the Blueprint for the Auckland Mobs

https://savageminds.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-the-near-murder-of-kellie

Helleofabore · 21/11/2024 09:12

StealthSpinach · 21/11/2024 08:21

I didn’t see this coming - especially after the treatment of KJK there…

I wonder how long Australian decision makers will take to dismiss this development as irrelevant to Australians, just as they did the Cass Report in UK.

Sadly, I think that with the change of focus in the NSW care team, it could be much longer.

LilyBartsHatShop · 21/11/2024 09:33

I hope you're wrong @Helleofabore , but I fear you may be right.
Wonderful for NZ kids.

Helleofabore · 21/11/2024 09:38

I hope I am wrong Lily. The Westmead team released some of the earlier warning papers. I doubt that the new team will be seeking balance at all.

StealthSpinach · 21/11/2024 09:45

Totally agree, @Helleofabore - much to my dismay.

redalex261 · 21/11/2024 10:33

This is great news. Being cynical, I do think the “genie out of the bottle” effect in US MSM opening up discussion following the swing state ads in the election has reverbrated internationally, and will push change along more quickly as politicians realise the strength of public feeling on this issue - it’s a no brainer politically - science supports GC stance and wider public waking up. Seeing the pivoting and reverse ferreting of US politicians has been fascinating.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2024 10:43

Good for New Zealand. Another domino down!

And I agree @redalex261

AlisonDonut · 21/11/2024 10:44

StealthSpinach · 21/11/2024 08:21

I didn’t see this coming - especially after the treatment of KJK there…

I wonder how long Australian decision makers will take to dismiss this development as irrelevant to Australians, just as they did the Cass Report in UK.

Having also watched the livestream, I think yet again, KJK brought it to a head. It meant people could talk about it and had permission to ask 'why were all those men so violently against a woman talking'...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2024 10:44

Hope Aus comes to its senses also.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2024 10:45

Having also watched the livestream, I think yet again, KJK brought it to a head. It meant people could talk about it and had permission to ask 'why were all those men so violently against a woman talking'...

YY. People underestimate the power of that.

TWETMIRF · 21/11/2024 11:33

Surprising but great to hear. Bit by bit children are being proctected

RedToothBrush · 21/11/2024 16:59

Woah.

Insurance providers will be watching closely.

ArabellaScott · 21/11/2024 17:14

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2024 10:43

Good for New Zealand. Another domino down!

And I agree @redalex261

Watch them all fall down

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TomPinch · 21/11/2024 17:55

I think this is entirely due to two things. First, a change of government in Oct 23. Some senior politicians in the new government are openly sceptical of gender ideology. Second, the Cass report, which was basically adopted, as far as I can tell.

This report was tremendously delayed. It was meant to come out just after the Cass report. I suspect it was originally going to say 'all good', then when Cass was released the ministry shat themselves.

When Cass was released, PATHA issued a prim statement saying it had 'limited relevance in an Aotearoa context'. I would love to see their faces now.

GourmetLettuceMix · 21/11/2024 19:11

TomPinch · 21/11/2024 17:55

I think this is entirely due to two things. First, a change of government in Oct 23. Some senior politicians in the new government are openly sceptical of gender ideology. Second, the Cass report, which was basically adopted, as far as I can tell.

This report was tremendously delayed. It was meant to come out just after the Cass report. I suspect it was originally going to say 'all good', then when Cass was released the ministry shat themselves.

When Cass was released, PATHA issued a prim statement saying it had 'limited relevance in an Aotearoa context'. I would love to see their faces now.

Re your last paragraph - what a prime example of NZ exceptionalism 🙄 Not a fan of the new govt but they are definitely on the right track on this issue.

kiterunning · 21/11/2024 19:46

Absolutely brilliant news!!!

FizzyLemons · 21/11/2024 19:53

This is great news, thanks so much for posting. I live in NZ and can't find this announcement in the three news websites I've just checked - just shows how captured our media is. I too am surprised - NZ is frustratingly slow sometimes.

There's a government review underway into transwomen in women's sport - I'm hopeful they sort that out too.

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