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Ffs labours trying to fuck women and children over again

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Hoardasurass · 14/11/2024 21:40

So in the latest attack on women and children by this labour government they want to let domestic abusers out on tag after 1/4 of their sentence. That's right get 12 months for coersive control, stalking, harassment or non fatal strangulation and you could be out on tag in just 3 months if these changes go through

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/14/domestic-abusers-let-out-prison-early-sentencing-overhaul/

Ffs labours trying to fuck women and children over again
Ffs labours trying to fuck women and children over again
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Bannedontherun · 14/11/2024 21:47

Only in exceptional circumstances, whatever that might mean so your thread is a tad hyperbolic.

ANameChangePresents · 14/11/2024 21:49

I can't imagine an exceptional circumstance where early release would be appropriate. Certainly not one in the interest of the public anyway.

user1467300911 · 14/11/2024 21:53

ANameChangePresents · 14/11/2024 21:49

I can't imagine an exceptional circumstance where early release would be appropriate. Certainly not one in the interest of the public anyway.

I agree. I don’t understand why this is even a consideration.

They should roll out this kind of thing for non Violent environmental protesters. It seems pointless to leave them locked up whilst freeing abusers.

Hoardasurass · 14/11/2024 21:53

Bannedontherun · 14/11/2024 21:47

Only in exceptional circumstances, whatever that might mean so your thread is a tad hyperbolic.

Well they are releasing prisoners early due to the "exceptional circumstances" of prison overcrowded now so maybe not so much

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Bannedontherun · 14/11/2024 22:08

I was CEO of a large women's refuge service when Keir took the helm of the CPS and saw a massive shift regarding DV and delivered training to prosecutors.

Also implementation of prosecuting without victim evidence.

Furthermore i was invited on to a serious crime review panel where we pulled apart prosecution failings in serious DV cases.

I am not a flag waving fan of Starmer but my real experience tells me this is not going to be a mass release of DV perps.

IwantToRetire · 15/11/2024 01:33

Domestic abusers could be freed from jail on electronic tags as little as a quarter of the way through their sentence under new legislation laid before Parliament.

Offenders convicted of crimes such as harassment, stalking, coercive control and non-fatal strangulation will normally be presumed unsuitable to be released early with a tag and an at-home curfew.

The new legislation, however, states that the governor at the domestic abuser’s prison can release them early if there are “exceptional circumstances justifying this”.

DT article https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/14/domestic-abusers-let-out-prison-early-sentencing-overhaul/
Can be read in full at https://archive.is/O6W3n

Assuming this is true, what possible exceptional circumstances would justify this?

I am wondering if this story has been fed to the DT to make people aware of the proposal. Haven't had time to check the wording / changes to the Home Detention Curfew scheme. Does anyone know anything about it?

HDC eligibility changes explained
https://insidetime.org/legal/hdc-eligibility-changes-explained/

Domestic abusers to be let out of prison early under sentencing overhaul

Government looks to expand scheme that allows offenders to be freed on electronic tags a year before their scheduled release date

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/14/domestic-abusers-let-out-prison-early-sentencing-overhaul

Grammarnut · 15/11/2024 10:02

Bannedontherun · 14/11/2024 21:47

Only in exceptional circumstances, whatever that might mean so your thread is a tad hyperbolic.

A tad hyperbolic, except that the new regulations are a straw in the wind.

RethinkingLife · 15/11/2024 12:02

It bears monitoring and constant vigilance.

People with serious convictions have their legal counsel successfully argue that imprisonment would have an adverse impact on local employment, dependants etc.

In the past, DV action was frequently dropped when it relied on women's cooperation because they were open to coercion that it would be a disaster for the family if the man went to prison.

Remember how shocked some people were by Huw Edwards' penalty? I've seen family members of a child who has been SA by the man actually plead that greater harm will come from losing the income and they want a non-custodial sentence. (US court streams have this on quite a regular basis.)

Constant vigilance at a minimum.

NB: this is on my mind because the National Safeguarding team is supporting the introduction of new statutory duties on various bodies, including NHSE and ICBs, to include domestic and intimate partner abuse, sexual violence etc. They will also look to mandate reporting of child SA.
I wonder how many women and children will not report to healthcare for assistance. But, I know it works in other countries so I want to see how it is implemented.

Signalbox · 15/11/2024 21:01

Hoardasurass · 14/11/2024 21:40

So in the latest attack on women and children by this labour government they want to let domestic abusers out on tag after 1/4 of their sentence. That's right get 12 months for coersive control, stalking, harassment or non fatal strangulation and you could be out on tag in just 3 months if these changes go through

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/14/domestic-abusers-let-out-prison-early-sentencing-overhaul/

Is this part of Keir Starmer's plan to halve the rate of violence against women?

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