Trans men sue NHS over half built genitalia

[Justme56]

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2024.11.07-174004/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/07/trans-men-sue-nhs-over-half-built-genitalia" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2024.11.07-174004/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/07/trans-men-sue-nhs-over-half-built-genitalia/

Hmm, that link isn’t working, OP. Sounds tragic though.

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2024.11.07-174004/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/07/trans-men-sue-nhs-over-half-built-genitalia/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2024.11.07-174004/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/07/trans-men-sue-nhs-over-half-built-genitalia/

sorry this link should work

I did a search for it but it's behind a paywall.

For some reason it’s not working but here is link to X

https://x.com/transgendertrd/status/1854602380358426796?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

https://www.leighday.co.uk/our-services/group-claims/delays-in-gender-affirming-surgeries/

Here’s the info from the law firm ^

and a webinar (I’m only half way through watching so no comments from me yet)

https://archive.ph/Khy6w

Not sure this will work

The NHS is between a rock and a hard place.

Rush to do the work and delay the law suit for a few years. Do the work and be sued eventually anyway.

The surgery itself is horrific. They are mutilating healthy bodies

no surgeon can build a penis. they are lying to very vulnerable people and then mutilating them.

Yes, I know!
What does NICE say about gender services I wonder? Personally I think the NHS should leave well alone in the way some regions do the IVF for example.

I just Googled NICE
www.nice.org.uk/guidance/topic-selection/gid-ipg10305

This is really difficult for those involved who should never have had these procedures started in the first place.

Having said that failing to commission and then adequately run is an endemic issue in the NHS. They are not special in this. You only need to look at how ND children and adults are treated in this and while I understand that this is their fight and they are within their rights to sue the NHS it feels like more of the most vulnerable, most oppressed narrative while at the same time getting the media attention and interest from legal groups that literally thousands of ND families can only dream of having.

The best course of action for the NHS would be to admit that the procedure is experimental and that there is not enough evidence for its success, and not do it.

Incidentally, what is NICE's stance of phalloplasty?

There are people waiting fof life saving surgeries for actual illness. This is a waste of the NHS's money

NHS England had commissioned St Peter’s Andrology Centre, a private clinic in north London, to carry out the surgeries but did not renew the contract upon its expiry in March 2020.
It was not until September 2021 that New Victoria Hospital in Kingston was appointed as a replacement provider, creating a backlog that has left many patients facing delays of up to four years, midway through procedures that require multiple operations.

It will be interesting to see if NHSE attributes some of the delay to COVID-19 disruption.
In other news, I have family members who were due a follow-up mammogram and imaging in 2020 post-breast cancer treatment. They've yet to receive that follow-up screening/imaging.
It may be quite difficult to adjudicate disparities in people who've now been substantially delayed for surgery and other interventions across a broad range of conditions

I can never tell what sex people are when they mention transgender fe/male. Why can't they just say transwoman or transman ffs.

Whilst I have every sympathy for people stuck in the NHS queues I'm afraid my sympathy goes more towards cancer sufferers who need certain areas rebuilding (eg breast cancer) or those who need plastic surgery because a dog has ripped them to shreds or a sadistic man has thrown acid over them. Or even those poor women who desperately need a breast reduction due to bad backs and horrible pain etc but are refused due to lack of funding. I cannot find much sympathy for people choosing to go down this path based on my own beliefs on what this ideology actually is.

EDIT - Lost my manners. Thanks for the archive link @dementedpixie !

Can someone explain to me the meaning of this?

Status
Topic selection
Decision
Not selected

The procedure was put forward for evaluation. NICE has declined to evaluate this as an interventional procedure.

They won't be holding a consultation about it.

It doesn't mean that there wouldn't be a guideline for care. Just that it's not being assessed as part of the interventional procedure programme.

Horrifying in so many ways.

My mind is also boggling about the use of a client's 'story' on a website to encourage more claimants, when that client's case is live. She could be cross examined on that later.

IIRC The private hospital that St Peter’s Andrology had been hiring for these ops (Highgate) was commandeered for NHS pandemic operations.
St Peter’s Andrology then couldn’t qualify for a new NHSE contract when the previous one expired because they had no hospital to operate from.

The eventual replacement service is the same old doctors from St Peter’s under a new banner (and a second surgical team has now been established with a Serbian surgeon contracted to train NHS staff).

it must be shit to be left part way through a multi part surgical process* but the finished ones have problems anyway (hence the people who are awaiting ‘repairs’ also included in the law suit).

*pretty sure that multi part reconstructive surgeries after cancer or other traumas are in a similar situation tho.

Also, trigger warning for potential J. Fae related jump scare partway through the YouTube webinar I posted upthread:

If it’s the same Serbian doctor mentioned on a certain antipodean bird cultivation site then the NHS will have more lawsuits soon enough.

I agree it's a psychological problem requiring counselling and really operations like this should not be offered.
If you want to live as trans then I respect that but these operations are a step too far and Imo not really in the interests of vulnerable people.
I do worry about the increase in young girls particularly autistic girls identitying as trans

Is there a law firm doing this for every group of people that has been left in pain/unable to work/with poor mental health by the NHS?