King Martha of the Britons?

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I've checked the calendar, it's not April 1st

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/11/king-arthur-may-have-been-lgbtq-welsh-council-suggests/

I mean, if that is all it takes I imagine we are all LGBT+++++

Here's an archive link. Hope it works, if it does it'll see you over the paywall

https://archive.ph/cAejZ

FFS, it would take too long to add the amount of eye roll emojis I need for this🙄😒

The historical basis for the timeline is taken from the work of LGBT-focused historian Norena Shopland, whose research into Welsh LGBTQ+ history has been supported by Swansea University.

I think Norena's been pretty astute in catching that Welsh gravy train, if this wiki entry has any accuracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norena_Shopland

I wonder if she's going to trans the men who took part in the Rebecca Riots?

Although this, from Wikipedia, sounds a bit terfy

Shopland was interviewed for International Women's Day 2023 by Wales Online, where she described the difficulties of researching lesbian history, and the disparity of recognition between men and women.

This is the kind of shit that makes me think it is a waste of money to send my kids to university.

If even a serious, proper university subject like history is full of bollocks, what's the point?

What’s she saying. He put on women’s clothes to sneak into a woman’s space and then as the story goes, proceeded to kill someone who caught him out. Not sure this is the story she’s trying to portray but that’s how it comes across.

He put on women’s clothes to sneak into a woman’s space and then as the story goes, proceeded to kill someone who caught him out.
The only change is death threats as opposed to actual death. I guess this keep out of womens spaces line is slowly getting through...

Hueil, in the story, had seen King Arthur using women’s attire to sneak into a dance to get close to a girl he was interested in.
Closet lesbian?

Oh God what will they say about bonnie Prince Charlie who dressed as a woman to make his get away to skye? There's even as song about it taught to all Scots kids was he really LGBTQ+ too😱

2 points

1. This could be a LGBTQI long runnings series, next on the list Achilles, Bonnie Prince Charlie and ...
2. As the people who wrote or created these myths had never, would never have been part of the mind warp that is TRA, how could they have written, created characters who were trans.

But, but, but - This Never Happens!

So, him being straight means he wasn't G or B, he was a male so not an L...so are they saying Trans is about pretending to be a women in order to gain access to female spaces and kill women?

Is this the quiet part being said out loud?

Not only does this never happen, it can never happen. We have been assured of this.
😉😁😁.

'The king appears to have been included in the LGBTQ+ material because, according to a Welsh legend, he once wore women’s clothing.
Quoting the legend, an entry on the timeline states: “On a subsequent occasion Arthur dressed himself in woman’s clothes in order to visit a girl at Rhuthun.”
Rhuthun (Ruthin), in Denbighshire, was said in one tale to be the site where Arthur executed a rival called Hueil mab Caw.
Hueil, in the story, had seen King Arthur using women’s attire to sneak into a dance to get close to a girl he was interested in.'

So, is everyone LGBTQIA+ now and if so can we stop banging in about how marginalised and disadvantaged Caitlin Jenner, Eddie Izzard, and Grayson Perry are, please?

Meh. Better than them transing Joan of Arc, or any woman who ever dared put her head above the parapet.

Perhaps she's found inspiration in the Morman's Baptism for the Dead practice.

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes that a dead person can be baptised by proxy"

So it would seem!

King Arthur was a mythical figure, so how can someone who never existed have been transgender? It's madness. You might as well say he was Norwegian. You can invent anything you like about people who aren't real.

Wow, LGBTQ+ all at the same time! Impressive! But on a serious note, does this ‘historian’ actually understand what reading anachronistically means?

In myth and history, men and women have worn each other’s clothes for various reasons. Surely all this tells us is that clothing was very clearly delineated by sex.

Martin Luther, a monk, disguised himself as a knight for some time. Does that mean that he identified as a knight?

The Greeks got into a wooden horse to invade Troy. Did that make them horse intestines?

Have these people never learnt anything about, you know, ‘disguise’?

There was also cases of daughters been made to sons in order to pass down their title/property. Unlikely that these women got a sexual kick from it.

Fuck off. Sick of this shit. The librarian at the last school I worked at spent 3 grand on LGBTQ+ books last academic year. Rainbow shelves etc.
No real budget left for new books or magazine subscriptions or software updates.
The demographic of the school corpus were let down so badly.
KS5 students requesting key texts and text books.
Sorry, can't afford that but we've got loads of graphic novels and other books about queer theories post pubescent men who believe they are women.

That is extreme but it is all over.

My library has really had a tight budget for books the last few years. We finally got a new pile of story books. None were LGBTQ+ specifically, but every fricking one was about "equality" or acceptance. Not a real story among them. The illustrations were colourful and done with ability, but were like a sort of representation checklist on every page.

The publishing houses see these purchasing librarians coming, they just think "oh, we need books on quality, let's blow our budget on these, because we don't think children really need to have real stories."

I sometimes wonder if someone like Sendak or Steig would even get published now.