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DEI/EDI The monster in companies profits, shareholders not happy methinks

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Keepsmesane · 06/10/2024 06:35

Is sanity prevailing?

“The result of our efforts is a <a class="break-all" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/diversitybydesign.co.uk/flying-flags-and-ticking-boxes/;!!F0Stn7g!ALKnWcLFcgd86pg4zrBQvkM1g85wtVGutLburn2ANqD1gHePOjCp8azKv9dVSj4w6G3KHd6utzJJoFRy64UDYGidjmb3yB8vp8Wf$" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">report, Flying Flags and Ticking Boxes — what went wrong with EDI and how leaders can fix it, which we publish today. We spoke to FTSE 100 company chairs and vice-chancellors of universities, chief executives, heads of HR and other senior executives from banks, energy companies, utilities, construction, housing and the NHS”

www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/employers-are-backing-away-from-edi-a-monster-they-cannot-tame-25lfjj3p8

Flying Flags and Ticking Boxes – Diversity by Design

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://diversitybydesign.co.uk/flying-flags-and-ticking-boxes/__;!!F0Stn7g!ALKnWcLFcgd86pg4zrBQvkM1g85wtVGutLburn2ANqD1gHePOjCp8azKv9dVSj4w6G3KHd6utzJJoFRy64UDYGidjmb3yB8vp8Wf$

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Keepsmesane · 06/10/2024 06:42

Having read a bit further and the report looks like making more work for DEI nut jobs 🤢

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Janie143 · 06/10/2024 07:25

Hi OP this appaers to be interesting. The 1st link goes to 404 error Do you have a share token for the Times one please

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Imnobody4 · 06/10/2024 10:46

Toyota has just come to it's senses.
https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1842418284408263001?t=_wtZUV5iN094XFWBWKwhLw&s=19

Toyota CANCELS woke DEI policies and sponsoring of controversial LGBTQI+ events.

The car manufacturer has announced it will also withdraw from the LGBT and trans lobby group Human Rights Campaign’s Corporate Equality Index.

The company will now focus primarily on activities that promote quality of business rather than diversity focused policies.

The decision comes after a campaign by @robbystarbuck who has also been behind successful campaigns against companies including Harley Davidson and John Deere, leading them to ditch woke policies.

Source: NY Post

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https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1842418284408263001?s=19&t=_wtZUV5iN094XFWBWKwhLw

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 06/10/2024 11:02

At the end of the day, all companies really give a shit about is profit. When it was trendy to jump on this bandwagon, they went for it. But if it starts to eat into shareholder profit they will quickly discard it. It seems like after the last economic crash, companies were looking for a way to seem like they were doing good without it costing them anything.

So, for example a company who actually wants to be ethical would ensure a decent living wage for it's staff, implement an ethical supply chain etc. but these things cost money, so they are a no go. So they focus on the easy wins - rainbow lanyards, awareness days etc. Things that seem fluffy and nice but are also cheap.

Which is also why certain minority groups (disabled people) are often left out of the discussion, because to implement an actual 'inclusive' workplace for these people would cost big money. We can't have that now can we?

So much of this stuff is also spurred on by young graduate employees who see themselves as activists first, and employees second (or as mentioned in the article, senior leaders wanting to appease the teenage children). Which is why it will be tricky to back down without saving face.

Also, I've worked in HR before, they are not averse to making more work themselves that is utterly meaningless. So maybe it's the beginning of the end, but there will be many who for their own self interest will want to keep the gravy train rolling.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/10/2024 11:04

Yes, exactly. great post @HornyHornersPinkyWinky

RethinkingLife · 06/10/2024 12:10

I've family members with disabilities. They're employed but at way below their merit and capacity. The usual justification/feedback for this is that they lack the breadth of experience of other candidates. That would be the experience that they can't get because workplaces and opportunities are less accessible to them.

Pronouns, supportive lanyards, bunting and murals for some protected characteristics are everywhere. But ask someone to alter their Zoom or MS Teams settings to turn on the closed captions? Make sure that training is booked in a venue that is accessible to someone who uses walking aids? That lacks glamour. Where is the performative glory of doing the invisible, the boring and important day after day?

Last week, the deaf family member was at an event where the captions hadn't been turned on and she had to negotiate that on the fly. Then she needed to ask people to use the microphones and not just 'talk loudly'. Talking to someone about this later, the other person told her how awareness raising it had been to have a deaf SCD competitor? My family member annoyed her by responding that she's less impressed by awareness raising and more impressed by action (nothing to do with the competitor). There's no point feeling the warm fuzzy about a deaf dancer, what it needs is people to think about their own actions, do something differently and repeat it, day after day.

Igmum · 06/10/2024 17:01

Spot on @HornyHornersPinkyWinky. Rainbow washing costs very little and boosts the marketing budget. Other disabilities are less sexy and more expensive so don't make the corporate radar.

I always feared a backlash when wider society saw through the TA agenda. I'm afraid that the people bearing the brunt of that backlash aren't going to be TW but others under the DEI umbrella.

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