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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

why I read the FT

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Sausagenbacon · 05/10/2024 10:45

The best piece of journalism I've read in a long time, on why we need the awkward squad, like KJK.

why I read the FT
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dropoutin · 06/10/2024 15:06

Sausagenbacon · 06/10/2024 08:52

I think he's talking exactly about people like KJK.
And your remarks about her exactly prove his point.

OK so that's your interpretation. Your OP makes it sound like it's what he actually wrote.

User37482 · 06/10/2024 16:26

Very incisive, becoming a TERF has made me less of a coward on other issues. Really helped with personal growth once I knew i was definitely an annoying bigoted middle aged woman. I’ve also developed a very healthy disdain for appeals to emotion.

DrBlackbird · 06/10/2024 17:02

Off to read. Sadly, quite often progressive Liberals are the most authoritarian.

RayonSunrise · 08/10/2024 07:04

Sausagenbacon · 06/10/2024 08:25

It makes me think of pre-election, when posters on here were telling us to not criticise Labour's stance on Gender, because Labour had our best interests at heart, and there were more important things going on.
Said posters seem to have mysteriously disappeared, post election.

Er, what? Is this a reverse? We were also flooded with people telling us if we didn't vote Tory/Reform that biological women would immediately cease to exist under a Labour government.

Unsurprisingly, partisan election talk has mostly disappeared now because we are back to the usual work of campaigning for women's rights.

user98786 · 08/10/2024 08:42

DrBlackbird · 06/10/2024 17:02

Off to read. Sadly, quite often progressive Liberals are the most authoritarian.

People who think they are right are the most authoritarian. Because they are doing it for good. Not stopping to think that the other side's motivations are the same (mostly).

It makes me worry this ideology might go on forever, much like the abortion debate. It's a conflict of who you think is more important.

Sausagenbacon · 08/10/2024 09:46

Orwell did a good essay on the same thing (unfortunately that's all I can remember)

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Sausagenbacon · 08/10/2024 09:48

biological women would immediately cease to exist under a Labour government.
Give them time ...I

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Brefugee · 08/10/2024 09:56

VoodooQualities · 06/10/2024 08:07

I've read the FT for most of my life. I get my information from a variety of sources of course, but IMHO the FT is an absolute powerhouse.

Here's another reason to read the FT, this is their most read article of 2020. This is a summary of a six month investigation into Mindgeek led by two female journalists supported by the FT editor (also female), essentially they followed the money, exposed the business from top to bottom, and traced the history of internet pornography:
https://www.ft.com/content/b50dc0a4-54a3-4ef6-88e0-3187511a67a2

FT fan here 🩷. I'll evangelise to anyone who'll listen about how it's well worth reading!

i used to love reading the FT when my company subscribed. Back in the day i loved the Martin Lukes column for a bit of light relief.

Off Topic: But. I thought I'd be safe reading that when Harry Potter 6 came out, and there would be no spoilers. But no. Even the FT managed to spoil it (by saying that the bookies around the printing works had stopped taking bets on which character died because so many had been put on XX character. But they named the character. Fuckers)

RoyalCorgi · 08/10/2024 10:01

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 06/10/2024 11:33

Thank you that was excellent.
"Rooms can be wrong" quite

I liked that too. "Read the room" is one of the most irritating phrases used on social media in lieu of reasoned argument. Who cares what the room thinks?

SmudgeHughes · 08/10/2024 16:49

@Sausagenbacon this is indeed a brilliant piece without mentioning, for example, gender, but the rest of the FT is sadly captured, largely because of its young staff (and liberal milktoastery).

SmudgeHughes · 08/10/2024 16:50

Lovelyview · 05/10/2024 17:00

Interesting. But have we reached peak 'woke'? In terms of gender ideology versus the biology of sex. I think gender is getting settled in for the long haul and not at a level I'm comfortable with. There's a risk everyone will start relaxing thinking sanity is coming back into the room whereas now is when we need to push back as hard as we can so if you can, check your local school's policies, email your MP, contribute to crowdfunders because this isn't going away on its own.

And it’s certainly not retreating in the US and EU.

SmudgeHughes · 08/10/2024 16:54

RayonSunrise · 08/10/2024 07:04

Er, what? Is this a reverse? We were also flooded with people telling us if we didn't vote Tory/Reform that biological women would immediately cease to exist under a Labour government.

Unsurprisingly, partisan election talk has mostly disappeared now because we are back to the usual work of campaigning for women's rights.

I think you’ll find that some of us are lobbying our MPs for a change in the Equality Act to differentiate between gender and biological sex. Because service providers are confused and err on the side of caution. We’re also braced for the conversion therapy legislation.

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