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The Undemocratic Women’s Institute

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Marmaladelover · 02/10/2024 21:14

So Women’s Institute is changing and not in a good way . It’s becoming more dictatorial, with decision making, more and more being centralised at National Headquarters . Major policy changes, making it nothing like the great institution, it used to be , only a few years ago .

We have already had their well publicised version of what a woman is in an updated policy ( wear a skirt for the day and you’ll past muster whatever sex you might be ) but I did think ( in my naivety ) that some aspects of core WI traditions were still sacrosanct .

The WI isn’t just known for their community involvement , they are also known for their campaigns for social justice and over the years have been at the forefront of difficult issues often changing women’s lives for good .
Were you aware that Keep Britain Tidy was a campaign in the early 50s and the WI were the ones who campaigned for universal contraceptives being available to all many moons ago ?

And the resolutions have all traditionally come from a democratic process . Any member could propose a resolution, which were whittled down to a smaller number by volunteer members to be voted on in a democratic manner by the whole of the WI (several hundred thousand members ) before being officially adopted . And with such a large membership you could expect a certain number of specialists in their own fields to be well equipped and knowledgable in their field to produce pretty good comprehensive proposals.
NOT ANY MORE !

The resolution process has already kicked off this year but it has since come to light that this isn’t now the democratic process it professes to be .
Instead a small few, employed people in the National HQ ( no more than 3?) who have no particular qualification to do so , rewrite submissions to the point of GERRYMANDERING and being completely unrecognisable; the hard work and research by the members is jettisoned turning them into new , bland resolutions, littered with errors and out of date information .
And this is done without referring back to the authors ( who may well be experts ) And it is these resolutions, that are offered to the members to vote on .

And it would seem that National HQ hoped nobody would notice, hiding behind NDA for comfort .

So many WI members have complained in recent years about the blandness in what has been produced - now we know why !!!

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ArabellaScott · 02/10/2024 21:21

That is enormously disappointing.

Feckedupbundle · 02/10/2024 21:23

The village next to me have disbanded their WI. They now have a ladies social club and have their meetings in the pub. That sounds infinitely better than the WI.

Bannedontherun · 02/10/2024 21:30

Natal women need. To vote with their feet.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/10/2024 21:35

Hmm. I wonder what these proposals are about?
There's a thriving WI locally. I wonder whether women are aware of this?

UtopiaPlanitia · 02/10/2024 23:20

A 'we know better than the plebs' attitude is so prevalent in so many organisations and institutions these days, as is subverting democratic membership (just look at Trades Unions and the manoeuvring that goes on there when it comes to proposing resolutions). I don't know if it's a result of a superiority complex or ideology or both.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/10/2024 23:25

These people forget that they work for the members. They should not be dictating policy.

TamzinGrey · 02/10/2024 23:51

Feckedupbundle · 02/10/2024 21:23

The village next to me have disbanded their WI. They now have a ladies social club and have their meetings in the pub. That sounds infinitely better than the WI.

Same thing happened in our village, but they still meet in the village hall on exactly the same dates.. They now call themselves "The ***womens group" and they've completely divorced themselves from the WI.
I feel strangely proud of them and am thinking of joining.

Rollstar · 03/10/2024 04:40

Not sure if this is the right thread to post this but our local WI has had a bit of a resurgence in recent years and I was considering joining until I went into their tent at this year’s fete. These banners were everywhere :(

Rollstar · 03/10/2024 04:43

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The Undemocratic Women’s Institute
ArabellaScott · 03/10/2024 05:33

TamzinGrey · 02/10/2024 23:51

Same thing happened in our village, but they still meet in the village hall on exactly the same dates.. They now call themselves "The ***womens group" and they've completely divorced themselves from the WI.
I feel strangely proud of them and am thinking of joining.

Ha! That is interesting.

Snowypeaks · 03/10/2024 05:49

Marmaladelover · 02/10/2024 21:14

So Women’s Institute is changing and not in a good way . It’s becoming more dictatorial, with decision making, more and more being centralised at National Headquarters . Major policy changes, making it nothing like the great institution, it used to be , only a few years ago .

We have already had their well publicised version of what a woman is in an updated policy ( wear a skirt for the day and you’ll past muster whatever sex you might be ) but I did think ( in my naivety ) that some aspects of core WI traditions were still sacrosanct .

The WI isn’t just known for their community involvement , they are also known for their campaigns for social justice and over the years have been at the forefront of difficult issues often changing women’s lives for good .
Were you aware that Keep Britain Tidy was a campaign in the early 50s and the WI were the ones who campaigned for universal contraceptives being available to all many moons ago ?

And the resolutions have all traditionally come from a democratic process . Any member could propose a resolution, which were whittled down to a smaller number by volunteer members to be voted on in a democratic manner by the whole of the WI (several hundred thousand members ) before being officially adopted . And with such a large membership you could expect a certain number of specialists in their own fields to be well equipped and knowledgable in their field to produce pretty good comprehensive proposals.
NOT ANY MORE !

The resolution process has already kicked off this year but it has since come to light that this isn’t now the democratic process it professes to be .
Instead a small few, employed people in the National HQ ( no more than 3?) who have no particular qualification to do so , rewrite submissions to the point of GERRYMANDERING and being completely unrecognisable; the hard work and research by the members is jettisoned turning them into new , bland resolutions, littered with errors and out of date information .
And this is done without referring back to the authors ( who may well be experts ) And it is these resolutions, that are offered to the members to vote on .

And it would seem that National HQ hoped nobody would notice, hiding behind NDA for comfort .

So many WI members have complained in recent years about the blandness in what has been produced - now we know why !!!

Are they going against their constitution by changing the way resolutions are submitted, or have they changed it?
Was it a tradition that any member could submit a resolution, or a rule?

nothingcomestonothing · 03/10/2024 07:36

Would this be relevant to WI, as an 'association'?

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/equality/equality-act-2010/code-practice-services-public-functions-and-associations-consultation

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