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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sparkles vs Councilor Laurie Burton

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fromorbit · 20/09/2024 09:17

The fetishist TA Sophie Sparkles [Molly] got into a twitter fight with longstanding gender critical Southend Labour Councilor Laurie Burton. When Burton said correctly Sophie was a man and had no right to enter women's spaces Sophie threatened to escalate by reporting him. Now the Southend press has written a biased article about the situation:

Laurie's twitter:
https://x.com/lwhb__

Sparkles previous background revealed by Reduxx, note Sparkles was soon after this article dismissed by the Scottish Greens as a candidate. If the Scottish Greens dismiss you are really are a big problem:
https://reduxx.info/scottish-green-party-backs-transgender-candidate-sophie-sparkles-in-upcoming-elections/

Sparkles was also in attendance at an anti-woman rights protest which resulted in a woman being attacked in Aberdeen.

Interesting development in the run up to the Labour conference

Sparkles vs Councilor Laurie Burton
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Imnobody4 · 20/09/2024 10:37

.@UKLabour I want you to suspend councilor Laurie Burton from your party now with immediate effect for this blatant transphobic abuse towards my person. You have untill 4pm tomorrow to reply to my complaint or I will take this to an Ombudsman. Thank you. Sophie Molly. She/her

Just occurred to me if Sophie really was a woman she'd be called Karen.
India is throwing in her support.

This is a LABOUR councillor confidently talking in a derogatory and transphobic way about a woman who is trans - safe in the knowledge @UKLabour @KeirStarmer @MidBucksLabour will do absolutely nothing. If only Sophie had been Gay, Black, Jewish. “I will protect women and girls from Gays, Blacks, Jews etc.” Yeah, wouldn’t get away with that. What @lwhb_ is saying about the law isn’t even correct. There are no ‘single sex spaces’ in the UK. The Suffragettes got rid. How do you protect something that doesn’t exist? Trans people have been LEGALLY using facilities of their choice since the 1960s. THAT is the current law. And btw: Where are all the usual Twitter Labour Luvvies who shout about bigotries every day? As usual - nothing. Fuck off. Go to your book launches, champagne bashes etc 🍾🥂

Cllr Burton
Oh no, anyone but THE OMBUDSMAN

x.com/lwhb__/status/1836297999170822176?t=AIVRWdb02BzgPoCo63XNMw&s=19

WinterTrees · 20/09/2024 10:43

The suffragettes got rid of single-sex spaces????

I know Willoughby lives in a parallel universe and there's not much point in looking for truth or logic in Willoughby's ranting, but that's pretty out there even by Willougby's standards.

(Are we allowed to correctly sex this person at the moment? I'm a bit behind current rules.)

Abhannmor · 20/09/2024 15:12

What's Miranda Yardleys take I wonder. He is in Southend as well

RaspberryParade · 20/09/2024 15:30

Imnobody4 · 20/09/2024 10:37

.@UKLabour I want you to suspend councilor Laurie Burton from your party now with immediate effect for this blatant transphobic abuse towards my person. You have untill 4pm tomorrow to reply to my complaint or I will take this to an Ombudsman. Thank you. Sophie Molly. She/her

Just occurred to me if Sophie really was a woman she'd be called Karen.
India is throwing in her support.

This is a LABOUR councillor confidently talking in a derogatory and transphobic way about a woman who is trans - safe in the knowledge @UKLabour @KeirStarmer @MidBucksLabour will do absolutely nothing. If only Sophie had been Gay, Black, Jewish. “I will protect women and girls from Gays, Blacks, Jews etc.” Yeah, wouldn’t get away with that. What @lwhb_ is saying about the law isn’t even correct. There are no ‘single sex spaces’ in the UK. The Suffragettes got rid. How do you protect something that doesn’t exist? Trans people have been LEGALLY using facilities of their choice since the 1960s. THAT is the current law. And btw: Where are all the usual Twitter Labour Luvvies who shout about bigotries every day? As usual - nothing. Fuck off. Go to your book launches, champagne bashes etc 🍾🥂

Cllr Burton
Oh no, anyone but THE OMBUDSMAN

x.com/lwhb__/status/1836297999170822176?t=AIVRWdb02BzgPoCo63XNMw&s=19

Not at all a self important bully.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 20/09/2024 15:59

I don't expect much from IW but even by IW's standards the "Gays, Blacks, Jews etc." stands out.

Do none of IW's supporters ever think, "Steady on, now"?

Is IW hoping to be invited on a controversial talk show in the hope of achieving relevance?

SirChenjins · 20/09/2024 16:18

I think IW likes to think of himself as the Katie Hopkins of the trans world. Probably influenced his choice of lady name.

EsmaCannonball · 20/09/2024 16:48

Honestly, when I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be another legal case involving a transgender dog, with Sparkles being a little Maltese terrier or something. Why do they claim they dream of passing but give themselves names belonging to a cabaret turn?

SensibleSigma · 20/09/2024 16:55

WinterTrees · 20/09/2024 10:43

The suffragettes got rid of single-sex spaces????

I know Willoughby lives in a parallel universe and there's not much point in looking for truth or logic in Willoughby's ranting, but that's pretty out there even by Willougby's standards.

(Are we allowed to correctly sex this person at the moment? I'm a bit behind current rules.)

I think it’s a reference to women being able to join certain spaces previously reserved for men. Like golf clubs. Keen of golf clubs, those suffragettes.

All these stroppy opinionated women kind of blur into one homogeneous group, across the centuries. Golf clubs, polling booths… similar really.

SensibleSigma · 20/09/2024 16:57

On occasion I find myself standing behind a slender, tall short haired figure wearing jeans, T-shirt, trainers, and wondering how I’m so sure they are female.
Similarly I look at Sophie Molly and don’t.

lonelywater · 20/09/2024 17:04

have to hand it to Sophie. Of all the prominent TRA loons she is the most entertainingly batshit. But seriously, I do wonder what it must be like, living in a transphobic hell hole, all day, every day.

WorriedMutha · 20/09/2024 17:48

The comments under the local paper story on Facebook are solidly behind Laurie.

Newterm · 20/09/2024 17:55

Most interesting this one. Southend has a Labour run council and a newly elected Labour MP, wokebloke David Burton-Sampson, who is heavily involved with Basildon Pride and deleted his pronouns from twitter just before standing to be elected..

LizzieSiddal · 20/09/2024 18:04

”Ombudsman”??

Why is Sparkles assuming their gender?!?

DialSquare · 20/09/2024 18:25

This is local to me. I might write to my new Labour MP (not the one previously mentioned) expressing my support for Laurie and ask if his views differ.

Newterm · 20/09/2024 18:39

DialSquare · 20/09/2024 18:25

This is local to me. I might write to my new Labour MP (not the one previously mentioned) expressing my support for Laurie and ask if his views differ.

Yes, that would be interesting. I don’t know much about Bayo, other than that he owns a lot of rental properties

FredaWallace666 · 21/09/2024 00:54

There is a full report from a local trans rights group and l have screen shot all the abuse which emanated from Sophie's posts. It is brutal and extremist and Burton has made no attempt to stop it and activly 'liked' and added to the abusive conversation. Regardless of your opinion on Sophie or trans people in general this is not acceptable behaviour from any public official and you should not support it.

Hate crimes against trans people in the southeast area are up by 30% on 2022 figures. If you support online attacks and deny trans people safety you are complicit in targeted harassment

Freda

lonelywater · 21/09/2024 01:04

FredaWallace666 · 21/09/2024 00:54

There is a full report from a local trans rights group and l have screen shot all the abuse which emanated from Sophie's posts. It is brutal and extremist and Burton has made no attempt to stop it and activly 'liked' and added to the abusive conversation. Regardless of your opinion on Sophie or trans people in general this is not acceptable behaviour from any public official and you should not support it.

Hate crimes against trans people in the southeast area are up by 30% on 2022 figures. If you support online attacks and deny trans people safety you are complicit in targeted harassment

Freda

the genocide just never stops, does it?

Ladyof2024 · 21/09/2024 04:47

SensibleSigma · 20/09/2024 16:55

I think it’s a reference to women being able to join certain spaces previously reserved for men. Like golf clubs. Keen of golf clubs, those suffragettes.

All these stroppy opinionated women kind of blur into one homogeneous group, across the centuries. Golf clubs, polling booths… similar really.

The suffragettes did not campaign for women to be allowed to play golf, or any sport.

SensibleSigma · 21/09/2024 07:32

Ladyof2024 · 21/09/2024 04:47

The suffragettes did not campaign for women to be allowed to play golf, or any sport.

I know lady. I’m pointing out that India is squashing together all the progress made by women across the generations in accessing male only spaces including golf clubs, to ‘suffragettes’.

TWETMIRF · 21/09/2024 10:30

So Fred, why aren't you trying to do something about the very real, actual violence against women? You claim to be one and yet only ever seem concerned about people with penises.

Women are in far more danger than trans people but you just don't give a shit about them. As a transwoman, Sophie is one of the safest people in the country. The chance of being murdered actually went down after he decided to be trans.

FredaWallace666 · 21/09/2024 13:17

TWETMIRF · 21/09/2024 10:30

So Fred, why aren't you trying to do something about the very real, actual violence against women? You claim to be one and yet only ever seem concerned about people with penises.

Women are in far more danger than trans people but you just don't give a shit about them. As a transwoman, Sophie is one of the safest people in the country. The chance of being murdered actually went down after he decided to be trans.

I refer you to this for codes of conduct for MPs or people advocating in public life
www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-7-principles-of-public-life/the-7-principles-of-public-life--2

SinnerBoy · 21/09/2024 16:30

LizzieSiddal · Yesterday 18:04

”Ombudsman”?? Why is Sparkles assuming their gender?!?

Damn it! Why do people keep posting my exact thought BEFORE I have a chance?

Igmum · 21/09/2024 18:47

WinterTrees · 20/09/2024 10:43

The suffragettes got rid of single-sex spaces????

I know Willoughby lives in a parallel universe and there's not much point in looking for truth or logic in Willoughby's ranting, but that's pretty out there even by Willougby's standards.

(Are we allowed to correctly sex this person at the moment? I'm a bit behind current rules.)

Yes I wondered about that too Winter. Can't recall the Pankhursts chaining themselves to railings because the local swimming pool had single sex changing rooms 🤔

Hoppinggreen · 21/09/2024 18:51

Hate crimes against trans people in the southeast area are up by 30% on 2022 figures. If you support online attacks and deny trans people safety you are complicit in targeted harassment

Source please?

RedToothBrush · 21/09/2024 18:58

FredaWallace666 · 21/09/2024 13:17

I refer you to this for codes of conduct for MPs or people advocating in public life
www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-7-principles-of-public-life/the-7-principles-of-public-life--2

Christ Almighty.

Like they actually mean full all in practice?!

You are having a laugh.

They'd only be about half the councillors left in this country. Never mind MPs.

Were you actually awake during the last decade?

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