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Huw Edwards given suspended sentence

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RaspberryParade · 16/09/2024 16:03

"The former BBC presenter Huw Edwards has been given a six-month suspended prison sentence, completing an extraordinary fall from grace after admitting accessing indecent photographs of children as young as seven.
Edwards, 63, who spent four decades at the BBC, looked pale and tired in the dock at Westminster magistrates court as the chief magistrate, Paul Goldspring, handed down the sentence.

Edwards, who nodded at various points during the sentencing remarks, was told that he had been “perhaps the most recognised newsreader/journalist in the UK” but that his “long-earned reputation is in tatters”.
His six-month prison sentence will be suspended for two years and he will be obliged to attend a 40-day programme designed to stop him offending again. He pleaded guilty to three charges of making indecent images of children after he was sent 41 illegal images by Alex Williams, a convicted paedophile."
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/sep/16/huw-edwards-in-court-after-admitting-accessing-indecent-images-of-children

Huw Edwards | The Guardian

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RaspberryParade · 16/09/2024 16:04

"40 day programme to stop him offending again...'
Yeah sure sure

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oakleaffy · 16/09/2024 16:06

What an absolute JOKE.

Freemasonry?

A suspended sentence for what he did is an insult to sufferers of sexual abuse.
In my opinion.

Glamourreader · 16/09/2024 16:10

We as a society apparently expect so little from men that this sentence doesn't surprise me at all. It's oops try not to do that again.

It feels like the law is all about enabling men to be free to do as they will and the rest of us just have to try not to get in their way.

Mischance · 16/09/2024 16:11

Dear me - nothing like enough. This is a disgrace.

RaspberryParade · 16/09/2024 16:13

@oakleaffy Quite possibly, its been popping up again and again recently.
I bet the French monster is one.
Men complain that women wanted access to their special clubs for containing and holding power, so now according to them theyre justified in coming into toilets sports etc
But yes Freemasonry could be well involved especially around the Dolphin House group.
In my own life my gradfather was Freemason and a French friend of my dads as well and I went out with an anarchist whose father was too. Then I lived in Bristol which is basically run by them, theyre all over the shop.

I so disagree with Joyce that its predominantly girls who get caught up in fads and cults.

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yankpan · 16/09/2024 16:15

I'm so appalled today. But unfortunately not surprised.

It was this little nugget that really enraged me though....

"He does not pose a risk to people under the age of 18” and had “shown insight, shame and remorse.

Wasn't the reason he was sacked from the BBC for an in appropriate relationship with a vulnerable young man that started when he was 17!

RainWithSunnySpells · 16/09/2024 16:17

I read the Guardian article. I feel ill. Such a pathetic sentence.

thisisasurvivor · 16/09/2024 16:21

BBC have multiple abusers on their pay role

Many are currently on TV

They are getting away with so much

This man is an utter disgrace

RaspberryParade · 16/09/2024 16:24

thisisasurvivor · 16/09/2024 16:21

BBC have multiple abusers on their pay role

Many are currently on TV

They are getting away with so much

This man is an utter disgrace

You are completely correct, the history of abuse in the BBC goes back to their inception. They chose an abuser to make a statue outside symbolising it all, deny all they will, and wont take it down.
Its ingrained. Please all stop enabling them, give up your license fees, at this point its just a habit.
They could not do this without all your support.

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Ohyoudodoyou · 16/09/2024 16:31

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LatteLady · 16/09/2024 16:31

You may well be upset but that is the correct tariff for the offence. Perhaps, if people checked rather than jumping onto a conspiracy bandwagon they might understand the rationale.

ChungKing · 16/09/2024 16:32

I understand the tarriffs perfectly well. I just don't agree with them.

thisisasurvivor · 16/09/2024 16:35

@RaspberryParade x10000

I can't go into details obv but I have a very good example of this and yes he is still on TV

No one batted an eye lid

No one

And they were aware of everything

BOYCOTT BBC 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

AbraAbraCadabra · 16/09/2024 16:39

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Sorry, are you trying to say that because men caught in the circumstances don't all automatically top themselves, that they don't feel shame at being caught/convicted? I'm not sure that based on your experience of two people that you can come to that conclusion and I also don't think we should be wanting people to regularly top themselves to prove they are ashamed enough. That's fucking grim.

Ohyoudodoyou · 16/09/2024 16:43

Ah no I posted this before amending the bit about not advocating self harm!

Not at all calling for self harm or suicide.

Ohyoudodoyou · 16/09/2024 16:45

I'll get my post deleted as I can see how it looks

Bollihobs · 16/09/2024 16:47

oakleaffy · 16/09/2024 16:06

What an absolute JOKE.

Freemasonry?

A suspended sentence for what he did is an insult to sufferers of sexual abuse.
In my opinion.

Have to say that was my first thought too. I wish I was clever enough to properly challenge it - it has really made my blood boil. Why it was ever deemed OK to have the trial in a Magistrate's Court rather than Crown Court I can't imagine (apart from the obvious) His KC stated all sorts of crap that the Magistrate didn't pull him up on and then to hand out the absolute minimum sentence - at the very least that Magistrate needs to be barred, what an absolute joke.

NonLinguisticRhetoricIsMyKryptonite · 16/09/2024 16:53

Waiting to see if it takes longer for "NAMALT" and "women do it, too" to turn up on FWR than the current AIBU thread.

Anticipating that, here's the FPFW post about the 2019 figures for women as perpetrators of CSA.

https://fairplayforwomen.com/sex_data_wrong/

Are more women sexually abusing children? | Fair Play For Women

The media are reporting more women sexually abusing children. Take a closer look. Collecting data based on gender identity instead of sex...

https://fairplayforwomen.com/sex_data_wrong

Bollihobs · 16/09/2024 16:53

LatteLady · 16/09/2024 16:31

You may well be upset but that is the correct tariff for the offence. Perhaps, if people checked rather than jumping onto a conspiracy bandwagon they might understand the rationale.

It's not "the correct tariff" the tariff for custodial runs from 26 weeks to 3 years, the Magistrate even noted that as the material included video this made the offence greater than the minimum sentence would reflect. The Magistrate's Court can only impose up to 1 year. It should have gone to Crown Court. He asked, specifically asked for photos and videos of underage boys.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 16:55

LatteLady · 16/09/2024 16:31

You may well be upset but that is the correct tariff for the offence. Perhaps, if people checked rather than jumping onto a conspiracy bandwagon they might understand the rationale.

It’s not ‘conspiracy’ at all to disagree with the ‘correct’ tariff and call it out as too lenient and therefore minimising a serious crime.

But- and I’m serious here- explain the rationale. I would like to understand it myself. Every day’s a school day and I’m here for it. Go.

Windchimesandsong · 16/09/2024 17:05

There's a couple of people on the other thread suggesting his childhood trauma is an "excuse".

As I said on that thread, that's incredibly offensive to victims of CSA (and other childhood trauma). I know a man who was sexually abused as a child. He despises child abusers.

Separate from Huw Edward's lenient sentence, I'm also disgusted that the man who sent him the images (Alex Williams, a convicted paedophile) also had a suspended sentence. How is that ok?

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 17:21

I can’t stand that old chestnut: “My childhood trauma made me do it!”
” I didn’t get into Oxford. Boo fucking hoo!” Cry me a river and where the hell did I put my teeny tiny violin?

The guy who raped and murdered my two friends on a play date was nicknamed Crybaby by the press because of that same entitled ‘poor little me’ behaviour.

Huw Edwards is an entitled, narcissistic abuser who gives zero fucks about anyone other than himself. All that mess he’s made (and by mess I mean the mess he’s made of the lives of others, including his poor family). And for what? His fossilised dick? Crazy making behaviour.

LatteLady · 16/09/2024 18:32

@SerenityNowInsanityLater You may find it helpful to read the sentencing report which is what I did before posting.

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/EDWARDS-SENTENCE-REMARKS-FINAL.pdf

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 16/09/2024 18:55

You know what Latte? No thanks. I’m already traumatised by my ex husband’s crown court transcript on my own desktop. I guess I’m too angry to do my homework after all. You would be to if you had to listen to how your 5 year old was orally and digitally raped… and then keep a transcript as evidence in order to remove parental responsibility (which was rejected the first time around! Yay for justice! Go team!) That’s my journey though. You probably don’t care about people like my daughter.

RaspberryParade · 16/09/2024 18:58

@SerenityNowInsanityLater
There are no adequate words for what your daughter and you are going through.
I am so so sorry, thats all I can say, its unbearable.

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