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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ladies. Would you wear this outfit to walk through a city?

72 replies

RainWithSunnySpells · 16/09/2024 09:07

Long, stripey socks, shoes, tail (I don't want to know how this is attached) and a bag. Yes, that is the whole outfit and it was worn in Seattle USA, not at Pride, but on a normal day.

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TickingAlongNicely · 16/09/2024 09:17

Sounds very chilly.
And probably against indecency laws in many places.

IDontHateRainbows · 16/09/2024 09:19

Well it's better than the tw who went out with an actual bum dildo up his behind and fully visible as part of his 'outfit'.

RainWithSunnySpells · 16/09/2024 09:19

Chilly for sure and also I can't imagine that a female wearing the outfit would be safe.

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IDontHateRainbows · 16/09/2024 09:20

Sounds like they are competing with Bianca Censori to be fair

Boiledbeetle · 16/09/2024 09:21

Ughh! Unfortunately I think I know what you are referring to! I imagine it's rather chilly on the willy, and the boobs in this case, on a cold day

RainWithSunnySpells · 16/09/2024 09:22

IDontHateRainbows · 16/09/2024 09:19

Well it's better than the tw who went out with an actual bum dildo up his behind and fully visible as part of his 'outfit'.

You'll be telling me that it's definitely not a fetish next!

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Echobelly · 16/09/2024 09:22

RainWithSunnySpells · 16/09/2024 09:19

Chilly for sure and also I can't imagine that a female wearing the outfit would be safe.

I don't think she'd been any less safe than any other woman tbh. Women are unsafe because of abusive men, not clothes (or lack of them).

Saschka · 16/09/2024 09:24

Echobelly · 16/09/2024 09:22

I don't think she'd been any less safe than any other woman tbh. Women are unsafe because of abusive men, not clothes (or lack of them).

Oh come on, a woman walking around naked except for a pair of socks is at no more risk than one in normal clothes? Don’t be ridiculous.

StealthSpinach · 16/09/2024 09:25

Is it legal there?

RainWithSunnySpells · 16/09/2024 09:27

I'm sure that I had read that people were worried about Bianca Censori and that the outfits were possibly not her choice to wear?

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SpiderPlanter · 16/09/2024 09:41

Saschka · 16/09/2024 09:24

Oh come on, a woman walking around naked except for a pair of socks is at no more risk than one in normal clothes? Don’t be ridiculous.

Sexual abuse doesn’t happen because of what you’re wearing.

Someone who is topless may be stared at or leered at more, but sexual abuse doesn’t happen because of the amount of clothes you wear.

IDontHateRainbows · 16/09/2024 09:57

SpiderPlanter · 16/09/2024 09:41

Sexual abuse doesn’t happen because of what you’re wearing.

Someone who is topless may be stared at or leered at more, but sexual abuse doesn’t happen because of the amount of clothes you wear.

It does for Bianca Censori

SpiderPlanter · 16/09/2024 10:17

IDontHateRainbows · 16/09/2024 09:57

It does for Bianca Censori

I don’t understand what you mean by this?

JeremiahBullfrog · 16/09/2024 10:26

Women should have the right to wear whatever they want and for this not to be a consideration when the men who assault them stand trial. We should defend this principle strongly. This doesn't mean that men might still be more likely to target women who are dressed in a certain way, just that this is irrelevant in a legal context.

MsNeis · 16/09/2024 10:34

Once, in a podcast (don't remember which one was) I heard something like this: we should defend a society in which a woman can walk naked in the middle of the night if she wants to, and at the same time recognise that it is crazy to do it.

SpiderPlanter · 16/09/2024 10:40

There is a Daily Mail article today about Shakira being upskirted on stage. Loads of comments saying ‘if you will wear that and be above people then expect…’

To me, sexual abuse happens no matter what you wear. When we start saying this like ‘it’s crazy to do it because…’ it’s one small step from ‘well look at what you were wearing’. There should never be a link between clothing and sexual abuse. We shouldn’t ever make that link because as soon as you do it gives someone else the opportunist it as an excuse.

LoremIpsumCici · 16/09/2024 10:42

RainWithSunnySpells · 16/09/2024 09:07

Long, stripey socks, shoes, tail (I don't want to know how this is attached) and a bag. Yes, that is the whole outfit and it was worn in Seattle USA, not at Pride, but on a normal day.

Seattle is a strange place. Not as strange as Portland OR, but close.

IDontHateRainbows · 16/09/2024 10:42

SpiderPlanter · 16/09/2024 10:17

I don’t understand what you mean by this?

Some people think her being paraded around like that by Kanye is an indication she's in an abusive relationship.

He is getting off on humiliating her.

Not confirmed, but she doesn't look very happy in a lot of the pictures.

SpiderPlanter · 16/09/2024 10:45

IDontHateRainbows · 16/09/2024 10:42

Some people think her being paraded around like that by Kanye is an indication she's in an abusive relationship.

He is getting off on humiliating her.

Not confirmed, but she doesn't look very happy in a lot of the pictures.

Oh I get what you mean, I thought something had happened to her that I hadn’t heard about.

Yes it’s all awful. And the fact he wears so many clothes you can’t even see his face, it just seems to emphasise what is happening.
She needs to get out, he’s a dangerous individual.

MsNeis · 16/09/2024 11:01

SpiderPlanter · 16/09/2024 10:40

There is a Daily Mail article today about Shakira being upskirted on stage. Loads of comments saying ‘if you will wear that and be above people then expect…’

To me, sexual abuse happens no matter what you wear. When we start saying this like ‘it’s crazy to do it because…’ it’s one small step from ‘well look at what you were wearing’. There should never be a link between clothing and sexual abuse. We shouldn’t ever make that link because as soon as you do it gives someone else the opportunist it as an excuse.

I agree with you if what you say is that clothing doesn't justify an agression and shouldn't do it legally either. But that's moral/legal territory.
The fact is that some men are predators, and potential targets of predators (a.k.a women, girls, boys and other men) should learn situational awareness and other techniques to avoid puting themselves in a dangerous situation. It's intelligent to do so, I think.

SpiderPlanter · 16/09/2024 11:05

MsNeis · 16/09/2024 11:01

I agree with you if what you say is that clothing doesn't justify an agression and shouldn't do it legally either. But that's moral/legal territory.
The fact is that some men are predators, and potential targets of predators (a.k.a women, girls, boys and other men) should learn situational awareness and other techniques to avoid puting themselves in a dangerous situation. It's intelligent to do so, I think.

Everyone, including men, should learn situational awareness. But this isn’t the same thing. There is no evidence that what you wear means you are more likely to be sexually abused.

When we start saying ‘What you wear correlates to your chances of being abused’ (even though it doesn’t statistically) we start saying ‘you can blame a victim for their choice of clothing.’

NPET · 16/09/2024 11:50

Short answer - NO!

ErrolTheDragon · 16/09/2024 12:07

I can't imagine any woman wearing this (partial) outfit in public even if it was 100% safe.Confused

midgetastic · 16/09/2024 12:17

Hum

I suspect that if what you wear is outwith normal accepted clothing, or if what you are wearing would be seen as "sexy" in the society as a whole , then it may make you more of a risk

It's more obvious perhaps when western women travel to other cultures and have to remember to cover up to get less hassle , but it wouldn't surprise me if it worked at sone level in the uk also

I can't imagine a lass dressing like that and not getting a lot of shouting and attention thrown her way - more than the lass in a standard jeans and hoodie

quantumbutterfly · 16/09/2024 12:19

OTOH, if we didn't hide under clothes we might be inclined to eat less and exercise more with the ensuing health and cost benefits. Would also save a fortune on clothes and reduce child labour exploitation in third world countries. Let's all do it....when the weather warms up.