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Let's celebrate Nawal El Saadawi

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Imnobody4 · 13/09/2024 10:57

Because of a story on plastic surgery in the Times (that's a whole new thread) I was searching for her quote.
Plastic surgery is a postmodern veil.
I came across this interview. She was such an amazing woman - is she taught about in schools, she should be.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2018/06/200895/nawal-el-saadawi-interview

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TiramisuThief · 13/09/2024 10:59

Yes she's amazing and not really known in mainstream feminism which is a real pity.

Incredibly clever woman.

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 11:00

Brilliant, thank you.

' she narrowly avoided child marriage at the age of 10 by smearing aubergine on her teeth to make them black just before her suitors arrived'

ArabellaScott · 13/09/2024 11:02

'Nawal’s eyes light up when she talks about her time in prison, which she says was "a good experience" overall. "When I went to prison I was already 50 years old – quite mature – so I was strong enough to survive. It’s a battle, but you go on. You are conquered and then you conquer. You are not broken. In prison, you face real life. Prison is like death, like exile, you face something horrible that you were so afraid of all your life – I was so afraid of prison and of death and of exile and of loneliness, of everything, but when I was in it, I lost my fear. You have to face these things to lose your fear."

Nawal is constantly encouraging women to let go of their fear. "The braver you are, the more nobody can touch you," she tells me. When I ask if she was always this confident and strong spirited, she says no – it happened gradually. She asks me, "Are you not strong and confident too?" And I say, "No! I don’t feel that strong or confident" and she says, "Ah, maybe this is because you didn’t need a battle. You didn’t fight for your rights, you found them, that is why you are easy-going and relaxed. It is okay! It is good! But when you are in fire, walking through fire, when you feel that everywhere you go you meet obstacles and you want to break through, you develop strong bones to go on."'

AliasGrace47 · 13/09/2024 14:39

I heard about her in Sue Lloyd-Roberts' book The War on Women. Really brave & inspiring- I must read Memoirs of a Woman Doctor & The Hidden Face of Eve.
BTW, Sue Lloyd-Roberts is another extremely brave woman who should be better known.

RaspberryParade · 13/09/2024 15:27

I really appreciate this. Ta😍

DameMaud · 13/09/2024 17:43

Imnobody4 · 13/09/2024 10:57

Because of a story on plastic surgery in the Times (that's a whole new thread) I was searching for her quote.
Plastic surgery is a postmodern veil.
I came across this interview. She was such an amazing woman - is she taught about in schools, she should be.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2018/06/200895/nawal-el-saadawi-interview

Wow!
Thank you for this.
Other PPs have already pulled out my favourite parts.
What an inspiration she is.
Will share this with some young women I know who are interested in feminism.
More books for the list too!

Enoughwiththisshit · 13/09/2024 18:02

What a brilliant woman! Thanks for sharing this, OP.

Delphinium20 · 13/09/2024 18:10

This is an amazing interview and, I'm embarrassed to say I didn't know anything about her but what a woman!!

I don't think I totally agree with her about women and their choice of clothing (especially showing our bellies which I don't see as anti-feminist, per se, as cultural norms vary) but her experience between the extremes probably makes sense for women who grew up with clothing strictures.

"...I was so afraid of prison and of death and of exile and of loneliness, of everything, but when I was in it, I lost my fear. You have to face these things to lose your fear."

THIS!!!

newtlover · 13/09/2024 20:53

thanks for this OP- an inspiration

Cambiarenome · 14/09/2024 07:33

Thank you for this. I didn't know about this amazing woman.

candycane222 · 14/09/2024 07:48

Wow @Imnobody4 thank youso much for sharing this! I had heard of her from back in the 80s but I suspect I may have found her too challenging (even though I absolutely thought of myself as a feminist) Well, my loss. What an inspiration!!

quantumbutterfly · 14/09/2024 08:02

What a wonderful woman. But damn you for giving me another half a dozen books to add to my reading list😂(who has time?)

A dangerously intelligent and educated woman. Thank you for introducing her.

Abhannmor · 14/09/2024 08:57

A prescient woman too. She realised the Camp David Agreement which was meant to help solve the Middle East problems was ' not a peace Treaty but war Treaty. People rightly celebrate her courage fighting for women's rights in a Muslim country. They are less comfortable when she criticises aspects of western culture though.
Rather Iike Solzhenitsin : he was a freedom loving hero when he was lacerating communism. Less so when he attacked Western consumerism and decadence.

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