Miss Switzerland murder

[Over40Overdating]

I’ve just read an overview of this case and I am overwhelmed with how much men seem to hate women right now. He pureed her body?!

The French case.
The crossbow murders.

It feels like every day a new level of savagery is unveiled and I don’t know how we address it.

Come on any thread here about violence against women and girls and it will be derailed by NAMALT. I know they aren’t but so fucking many of them are how are we to know the difference.

How do we start to tackle this when many of us are in denial or because ‘my husband would never do this’ think it’s nothing to do with us.

It’s exhausting. I don’t know how to tell my nieces and god daughters how to be in the world as a woman any more. I am terrified and depressed for them in equal measure.

What steps do you take to feel like you are fighting back at least?

Kristina Joksimovic.

It is exhausting.

Friends expressed their shock at the news. One told Blick as the news broke: 'To me, they seemed like the perfect family.'

@Imnobody4 its always the perfect families isn’t it.

To me that’s now short hand for an abused woman playing a part to keep her abusive husband happy.

I’ve known too many now to believe the facade.

An ongoing investigation concluded today there were 'concrete indications of mental illness' underlying the case.

See?

@DysonSphere of course. He was also defending himself.

Poor lamb.

I don’t disagree that someone who could do what he did is mentally ill. I just don’t think that’s what sparked the murder to begin with.

That’s plain old woman hate.

He had the actual audacity to request being let out of remand.

My money is on him secretly resenting her the entire time he was smiling with her in all the happy photos. He hated her. Dismemberment and disfigurement after death (especially as she was known for being a beautiful model) is highly personal and particularly vicious and revengeful.

Agree totally @Over40Overdating

I was just reading about this in absolute horror. Truly sickening. RIP Kristina.

@Over40Overdating Yes, always get NAMALT on any threads on Mumsnet, regarding violence towards women, really think there’s a lot of men, on here commenting!!But not actually saying it’s from a man’s perspective.Criticising women and telling them off.I get it’s an anonymous forum, l just find it a bit creepy, men are using it to, for their own agenda.

Some things to do;

-If you see a man berating his partner in public or sexually harassing a woman, step in and ask her if she would like some help.

-Speak up in support of other women subjected to any form of sexism and misogyny, not just violence.

-Contribute to charities devoted to things like educating girls in the third world and providing safe toilet facilities so they don't have to go in the fields, risking rape. Also, contribute to SA and DA support networks.

As for changing men, that's quite hopeless I'm afraid. All we can do is try to mitigate the damage. ☹️

@Over40Overdating the more I read, the more I hear, the more I am moving away from my at times NAMALT position.

I watched a new documentary on Netflix today, another horrible sexual violence story against a young female. I'm overwhelmed a little by this all.

I just watched the Grace Millane documentary on Netflix. Utterly heartbreaking.

This is heartbreaking.

There's plenty of research showing that men are more likely to be violent to women and girls if they think other men support them. Silence enables this, particularly silence by men.

There's plenty of research showing that men are more likely to be violent to women and girls if they think other men support them

Another example of men only listening to other men. Never women.

On another thread right now there’s a whole bunch of women arguing that children don’t need mobile phones getting too and from school because everyone got on fine before phones. So it’s seems there is actually a large group of women who don’t feel any sense of rising threat against women and girls and are entirely comfortable with their school age daughters and nieces traveling around by themselves. So it’s probably not men raiding the threads, looks like a lot of women feel fine 🤷

What a vile, vile man- that is absolutely shocking. Poor Kristina.
And those poor daughters.
Comments online include one stating that if you think someone is going to do this, you should leave. What the actual…..
Do these people realise what they’re saying; just leave ????

Yes, OP. It is relentless, and terrifying, and exhausting. I feel quite paralysed sometimes.

How do I send my daughter out into the world? What do I tell her? There are men out there who organise to abuse drugged women? There are men who will kidnap and torture women? These men are policement, priests, politicians.

What do I say?