America’s New Female Right - BBC

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Anyone watch this? It was a few nights ago, very late. It’s on I-player. I watched and was equally appalled, disturbed and angry. I won’t go into detail describing it but would like to discuss with anyone else who may have seen it. Young woman from Liverpool presenting it was new to me. I noticed Louis Theroux was a consultant or advisor. Veered from young women making comments about it being a bad idea for women to have got the vote, to the presenter being horrified at a t-shirt being sold at a Far Right religious conference that said ‘Woman is not a Costume’. Guardian review below by Lucy Mangan that was surprisingly quite critical.

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/article/2024/sep/02/americas-new-female-right-review-this-lazy-bbc-documentary-fails-to-tackle-dangerously-extreme-views

🙄 This obviously does happen, but not in this case. I don't even think you're even arguing that he didn't say "school shootings are a fact of life". He did say those words, and that is what Kamala HQ is pointing to.

But enough of the derail.

It's dishonest, but PR gonna PR.

But where it goes nuts is when I now call you dishonest for saying that's dishonest, because "that's just what the critic said".

Deleted post. I got that wrong.

Further edit: Aargh, no I didn't. I was actually right and shouldn't have deleted.

I'm going for a lie down.

No wonder the comments were enabled. Full of the most marginalised people ever against the meanie terfs comments including several from one notable trans Guardian staff member. It’d be interesting to know if the BTL comments would be different now?

By the by I’m incredibly disappointed to find out LM is another deluded ally.

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Interesting. I may watch it, but it doesn't sound great. I'm not Lucy Mangan, nor her apologist or agent, and often find her TV reviews for the Guardian particularly anodyne, BUT when I was more on Twitter she's most definitely GC, and has made reference to it in various other TV reviews. Look up her review of the latest series of Sex Education, for example. She now only does TV reviewing for the Guardian, and I think her intro paragraph plus the one I paste below are her saying in a not very coded way, I don't agree that these three women are all 'awful and evil and bad-bad-bad' but Guardian readers, particularly the ones in America, won't even consider questioning it.

"What we get instead is a cheap, shoddy programme apparently thrown together in 10 minutes, presumably on the grounds that everything and everyone is so obviously awful and evil and bad-bad-bad that it is enough just to film them, show Wright’s pained face occasionally and have her lob in a few wet questions to show that she is still listening and still on the side of right (which is, of course, left, not right)."

My next message about Lucy Mangan has been hidden but basically, check out her twitter feed and see who she retweets...

Posting a link to her earlier piece, just because it's that rare thing, a trans piece in the Guardian with comments enabled:

Back in 2014, the Guardian enabled comments on almost everything. (Though they did often delete gender-critical ones.) Kath Viner took over as editor in about 2014 or 2015, and then a year or so after that, she made the decision to remove commenting from controversial subjects - anything related to transgender issues, race, feminism or Israel/Palestine, basically.