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Almut Gadow crowdjustice for case against OU

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Lovelyview · 03/09/2024 17:06

I'm sure Almut's case has been mentioned in previous gardening threads. She is taking the OU to court after they tried to force her to incorporate gender ideology into her course curriculum and then dismissed her when she refused. Her Crowdfunder for her employment tribunal claim appears to have one day left although the case is going to court in 2025 so they may extend it. Google Crowdjustice Almut Gadow to find it.

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fanOfBen · 19/02/2025 19:54

I do hope they're going to settle with AG, yes. The UCU is an embarrassing disgrace. Wouldn't like to speculate which women are not supported by the UCU because the UCU is not supportive, vs which women are not supported by UCU because they long since saw what was going on there and stopped paying subscriptions.

anyolddinosaur · 19/02/2025 20:07

People do sometimes settle at the gate to the court, so to speak - when they realise that they are going to incur greater losses by going on. So they may still settle if Almut is up for that, If she decides to explore their nonsense further in court then good for her.

AnotherAngryAcademic · 21/02/2025 15:55

Almut Gadow has settled with the OU - see here

https://x.com/AlmutGadow/status/1892963430451056690

(Edited because link disappeared!)

RoyalCorgi · 21/02/2025 15:56

Great news - well done, Almut.

Igmum · 21/02/2025 16:02

Great news. I hope this also means that the OU is doing a lot of work behind the scenes to improve its dealings with GC academics and maybe actually learning some law.

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Lovelyview · 21/02/2025 16:34

Great news.

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needmoresheep · 21/02/2025 17:16

I used to really admire the OU and have completed modules with them. Now they are just another tainted organisation willing to throw employees and students under the bus in order to get a Stonewall sticker.

No wander fees keep going up with all of these court cases and lawyers fee.

anyolddinosaur · 21/02/2025 17:18

Well it's good news for Almut - but you can imagine the impact it would have had if the newspapers had reported on the OU's (non) case? Given the puiblic interest in Sandie Peggie I think a few might have been prepared to do so. There would have been a lot of wtf are these loonies teaching moments. Almut owes a debt of gratitude to Sandie Peggie.

I dont believe the OU have changed at all, just recognised that they cant win and their staff will look fools again.

If anyone does know Almutr IRl point out that's it's bloody rude to announce this on twiiter before an email to those who donated to your crowdfunder.

SinnerBoy · 21/02/2025 17:19

This is marvellous news on a small scale, for Almut, but as she says on that thread, they are continuing to ignore the law and to push their pernicious agenda.

fanOfBen · 21/02/2025 17:33

Hard to know whether this is good news or not. Almut says she'll say more tomorrow; a key question for me will be whether the OU will make a suitably apologetic statement. I do agree that AG's communication has not been great, but I dare say the whole thing has been extremely stressful.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/02/2025 17:53

That's good news for Almut. I have massive admiration for every single women (and the men) who take on the gender borg. Especially when they're in toxic workplaces and people have to put up with the personal sustained campaigns that threaten their careers and livelihoods that we've seen in previous cases - ie, the OU, Garden Court chambers, the NHS etc.

I can't imagine the fear and stress that they've experienced and just send my thanks to Almut and others for exposing these extreme levels of bullying.

fanOfBen · 22/02/2025 01:17

AG's longer statement now out. Shorn of a lot of rhetoric: the OU have paid her an undiscloseable sum but not admitted liability.

fanOfBen · 22/02/2025 01:28

(She has said that the OU settled several weeks ago, but the Free Speech Union said they wanted to announce it, but never did! Some backstory there I suppose.)

PoppySeedBagelRedux · 22/02/2025 08:16

Almut has just posted this thread on Twitter:

x.com/almutgadow/status/1893203270589354021?s=61

She's very happy for it to be shared as widely as possible.

anyolddinosaur · 22/02/2025 10:36

I dont use twitter and my software blocks nitter. Still as one of the 3237 donors to the crowdfunder I do now have an email that probably covers at least some of the same ground. If they settled weeks ago I guess that's why the donate button on the fund raiser disappeared. The settlement did not involve OU admitting any liability so they can just justify it on cost grounds and refuse to admit to having done anything wrong.

Anyone know what Almut is doing now, still working somewhere I hope.

Herewegoagain29 · 22/02/2025 11:16

n 2022, the UK government provided £10 million in funding to The Open University according to Google, and yet there is no accountability when they mis-spend money like this.
The amount of money that they spent on Lawyers she wrote on X:

..next time the Open University asks you for a donation, you might want to ask them this: Over the past 12 months, how much money has the OU spent on lawyers defending its unlawful practices towards dissenting students and academics? It must be way into the six figures.

There seems to be no acknowledgement that they were in the wrong.

fanOfBen · 22/02/2025 11:42

I don't know what AG is doing now, but in the process of looking her up at scholar.google.co.uk in case she'd been publishing anything (she hasn't), I came across this paper which might interest some: https://academic.oup.com/tandt/article-pdf/30/2/94/56706828/ttad092.pdf

It's about the legal treatment of crowdfunded money for litigation, and it came up when I searched for AG because it footnotes her page as an example, reminding us that a condition of using CrowdJustice is that any unused funds are returned to them for use in "similar" causes. It would be interesting to know how they determine which causes are similar, and whether we'd agree.

WhatterySquash · 22/02/2025 13:51

Huge congrats and thanks to Almut - but what is wrong with these people? Like NHS Fife, they seem so completely engulfed by ideology that they're unable to wake up and see that their behaviour can be shown to be illegal, and that they've gone down this ridiculous path of being led by gender zealots on everything because they've been lied to and played by Stonewall et al.

It's like the court cases alone aren't working even as they prove time and time again that this approach is wrong – legally, morally and factually. We need some kind of clear statement from government that this has happened because of Stonewall law and charities and pressure groups actively misleading organisations, to get people to wake up to that. Because as it is, they seem to just blunder on, convinced the law is bad and wrong and GI is the One True Way.

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