Neil Gaiman Accused Of Sexual Assault Pt II

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As we're nearly at the end of the first thread, let's make sure we keep the topic current.

There have been five women now who have spoken to podcasts about the predatory behaviour of Neil Gaiman.

First thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5112128-neil-gaiman-accused-of-sexual-assault

A slow seep is better than no seep.

Maybe we should send Tennant a t-shirt saying, "Keep away from non-consenting young women, you absolute freak."
And see if he wears it on set.

There was a 'Dear Prudence' letter on slate.com recently about someone wondering what to do with some tshirts etc that were popularising a now slightly disgraced artist's work. A lot of of the below the line commenters were like, Gaiman, I bet it's Gaiman.

(The letters in Dear Prudence are still rubbish, but less obviously queered than they were when Daniel Lavery was doing the column).

😂😂 Yes 😁 We need to kickstart those tees 😉

Yes!

Personally I'd buy both 😂

You could request it in the gerbils thread (which started because of t-shirt requests and descended into complete madness)

63 days since allegations of sexual assault were made against Neil Gaiman, who has yet to respond.

It's getting ridiculous now.

Oh, I would like this.

I just don't think Neil Gaiman realises we're not just going to give up and forget about this. The longer he doesn't say anything, the worse it looks for him.

I have a fear that if enough time goes by, and if the TV shows (that haven’t been cancelled), do well enough it’ll all be glossed over and forgotten.

Bumped into someone the other day who was at the Glasgow sci-fi/fantasy event last month (the one linked in the previous thread). They said that all Gaiman's friends are shell-shocked. Clearly he's been doing his own PR for a loooong time. It chimes with what someone else (a close friend of Gaiman's) said to me about the way he obviously compartmentalised.

Neither of these people tried to excuse him - I suspect they give credence to the allegations, which says something, IMO.

I think they all believe it, I guess they will all just try to avoid talking about it.

@yellowasteroid I bet we know some of the same people. I know lots of people who were there. (Lots of wokos who hate me.)

The impression I get is that everyone knows but people don't want to talk about it. I know people trying to sell books that he's written bits for or generally who have associated with him and just don't want to get involved.

I think there's also some distaste for what some see as a "witch hunt" - which I would sympathise with except when it's a woman being cancelled everyone still has plenty of energy for that.

Don't know if this has already been posted, but just saw this:
variety.com/2024/film/news/graveyard-book-neil-gaiman-assault-allegations-1236131149/

Sorry forgot to post last night! Yesterday it was 64 days since allegations of sexual assault were made against Neil Gaiman, who has yet to respond.

Oh interesting. Disney leads, maybe Netflix and co follow?

I think Netflix already did! https://www.nme.com/news/tv/neil-gaimans-netflix-show-scrapped-following-abuse-allegations-3789903

Even more interesting! But what about Good Omens and Sandman?

I think DBD was probably going to be scrapped anyway because of low ratings. Netflix are quite transparent about how they decide to scrap shows, and that decision would have been made a while ago.

I don't know what the turnaround timings are for TV, but I know in Hollywood the rule of thumb is that from a movie being greenlit to it arriving on screens averages out at about three years. That's why, if you have a really baffling bit of casting, look at who was on the cover of Entertainment Weekly two years earlier (eg Brie Larson in Captain Marvel; two years earlier she'd won her Oscar and was the hottest thing around). It also figures into how you can tell whether Hollywood is pivoting away from woke agenda films, because what we're seeing now is what executives thought was a good idea three years ago.

Take that along with sunk costs, and I'm not sure we'll see a lot of Gaiman adaptations being cancelled quickly because of the stink around him. But execs will be nervous, and a lot of decisions (like commissioning a new series) will be put off for a while. I think it's going to be like Weinstein, where his projects gradually and quietly died a death.

65 days since allegations of sexual assault were made against Neil Gaiman, who has yet to respond.

I see the Redditors have decided that "TERFs" are "jumping on the NG bandwagon" because we're evil bitches, obviously.

And not because we care about women. Which is the ENTIRE point of radical feminism. Women. Girls.

It's frustrating. Such tiresome indoctrinated idiots.

It's alternately funny and annoying to see all the unexamined assumptions on that subreddit. But I suppose it's reflective of the fanbase that NG built for himself.

How DARE people jump on the bandwagon that condemns sexual predators for their crimes. What is the world coming to?!