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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shahrar Ali suspended from the Green Party

28 replies

cariadlet · 23/08/2024 18:58

The TRAs are so out of control that they have suspended someone who has already won a discrimination case against the Party - only a couple of weeks before the Green Party Conference where he was planning to propose a motion in support of Cass.

x.com/ShahrarAli/status/1827036639899656292?t=PT7uhUnaGxz2wcJcFK_BmA&s=19

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Omlettes · 23/08/2024 19:05

FFS not again!

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 23/08/2024 19:57

Well done him, he's not messing around when it comes to the rot in the Green's, if the party was made up of people like him, I'd have no trouble voting for them.

Fenlandia · 23/08/2024 20:01

He's still in litigation with them, with a costs hearing next month (as he says in his tweet). How mad do the activists have to be to keep on doing the thing to him that they've just been found to have been wrongly doing to him?

soupycustard · 23/08/2024 20:30

Still, I'm sure that using all their time, money and energy on aggressively pretending that males are females is far more important than all that silly stuff about, oh I don't know, climate change? Species extinction? Microplastics? untrammelled consumerist society? The undemocratic power of global corporations and their effect on every aspect of the environment? I mean I could go on, but you know, I'm just one of those dinosaur greens, the type that doesn't dye my hair blue and claim that blokes are women. Ffs

Imnobody4 · 23/08/2024 20:44

They really are vindictive little idiots. All the best to Shahrah Ali he's a good man.

lcakethereforeIam · 23/08/2024 20:52

I...I thought this must be a zombie thread 🙁but no. More green vindictiveness.

Omlettes · 23/08/2024 20:52

@soupycustard I hear you. Its unbelievably frustrating.

PronounssheRa · 23/08/2024 20:59

The green party are going to cease to exist in England because of their vindictiveness, which keeps landing them in court.

At a time, they are needed the most they have allowed gender ideologues ro destroy them from the inside

Slow hand clap, idiots

IsadoraQuagmire · 23/08/2024 21:02

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 23/08/2024 19:57

Well done him, he's not messing around when it comes to the rot in the Green's, if the party was made up of people like him, I'd have no trouble voting for them.

Me too, he's great.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 23/08/2024 21:31

I thought the same, Cake. They really have lost touch with reality to be doing this again.

CobwebCorner · 23/08/2024 21:41

soupycustard · 23/08/2024 20:30

Still, I'm sure that using all their time, money and energy on aggressively pretending that males are females is far more important than all that silly stuff about, oh I don't know, climate change? Species extinction? Microplastics? untrammelled consumerist society? The undemocratic power of global corporations and their effect on every aspect of the environment? I mean I could go on, but you know, I'm just one of those dinosaur greens, the type that doesn't dye my hair blue and claim that blokes are women. Ffs

But none of that is as important as male feelings.

OuterSpaceCadet · 23/08/2024 21:44

PronounssheRa · 23/08/2024 20:59

The green party are going to cease to exist in England because of their vindictiveness, which keeps landing them in court.

At a time, they are needed the most they have allowed gender ideologues ro destroy them from the inside

Slow hand clap, idiots

Yes this
Was going to say isn't it weird/ horrible how trans ideology manages to destroy so many movements. But that's the actual point isn't it. The ultimate capitalist backlash. If the most powerful can identify as the most opressed, in any given scenario, then no movement against the status quo can ever succeed.

thirdfiddle · 23/08/2024 22:14

There's a whole crew of sterling leftie green feminists in the green party. And they've been treated so badly, good on Shahrar for standing with them. When all GPEW has left is legal fee debt, can they start up a new women and environment friendly party together?
It's all such a waste.

BigBadaBoom · 23/08/2024 23:29

Did you know Friends of the Earth was founded in the US with money provided by an American oil barron to scare people away from nuclear power and keep the fossil fuel industry on top? That's the dirty little secret of 20th Century environmentalism, and tells you all you need to know about the power of unscientific ideologies in the green movement.

Omlettes · 23/08/2024 23:40

BigBadaBoom · 23/08/2024 23:29

Did you know Friends of the Earth was founded in the US with money provided by an American oil barron to scare people away from nuclear power and keep the fossil fuel industry on top? That's the dirty little secret of 20th Century environmentalism, and tells you all you need to know about the power of unscientific ideologies in the green movement.

Actually it absolutely doesnt. What a fatuous simplistic comment.

SquirrelSoShiny · 23/08/2024 23:44

NoBinturongsHereMate · 23/08/2024 21:31

I thought the same, Cake. They really have lost touch with reality to be doing this again.

In so many ways, starting with the point where they said men can become women.

CobwebCorner · 24/08/2024 07:12

BigBadaBoom · 23/08/2024 23:29

Did you know Friends of the Earth was founded in the US with money provided by an American oil barron to scare people away from nuclear power and keep the fossil fuel industry on top? That's the dirty little secret of 20th Century environmentalism, and tells you all you need to know about the power of unscientific ideologies in the green movement.

What's that got to do with anything? Unless you are a science denier of course, or not very bright.

RadicalisedPastThePointOfSalvation · 24/08/2024 09:16

As a party they’ve got 4 MPs. For the first time ever. So many more people are voting Green and thinking about climate change and the environment and this is what the party are spending time on. WTAF is wrong with them.

Rymeswithpunt · 24/08/2024 10:31

CobwebCorner · 24/08/2024 07:12

What's that got to do with anything? Unless you are a science denier of course, or not very bright.

I am not any kind of climate change denier but I think who fund stuff does matter. Who pays the piper picks the tune.

cariadlet · 24/08/2024 14:04

This Politics Home article is timely.
www.politicshome.com/news/article/gender-row-risks-tearing-green-party-apart

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lcakethereforeIam · 24/08/2024 15:02

Need a Green SEEN.

jacksonlambsregulardisorder · 24/08/2024 15:17

cariadlet · 24/08/2024 14:04

I was just coming to post this - what party needs a whip when they're so handy with the boot instead?!

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 24/08/2024 18:48

cariadlet · 24/08/2024 14:04

"English claims the GPRC is, “completely taken over by gender ideology types”, who have “been suspending anybody they don't like – anybody who they see as difficult or just wanting to ask a question or say, ‘can we talk about this, or can we have debate?’ And because they've got this power, there's no counteraction.
“It is a witch hunt. The people who are behind it are looking for people who dissent, and then they're picking them off as soon as they can”, she adds."

This sounds just like what happened to the Edinburgh Rape Centre, I wonder if those who are thinking of taking further action could use the judgement in that case to fight their expulsion with. 😯

fromorbit · 26/08/2024 09:21

jacksonlambsregulardisorder · 24/08/2024 15:17

I was just coming to post this - what party needs a whip when they're so handy with the boot instead?!

That article is important this is a major issue for one of our main parties. As the recent disaster faced by the Lib Dems over Natalie Bird proved these ideas are illegal. Women and men do exist. Saying they do isn't wrong.

So the Greens are going to have to face that reality soon as the Legal cases for Emma Bateman, and Dawn Furness are still incoming [gardening needed]:
https://greenwomensdeclaration.uk/about-us/legal-cases/

Sounds like Ali might have to go to court again.

As for a SEEN group. The reality based Greens are already organised within the Green Party Women and the Green Party Women's declaration, a bunch of people have been expelled or suspended, but others remain. Thousands of members voted for Shahrar as leader.

This is all going to have a political impact on the Greens soon or later if they keep losing cases and money. The next council elections are in May and they are going to need funds.

Also this issue is politically useful. The Tories will be defending a lot of seats so if they go after the greens for being sexist it could be a wedge. Labour also have choices to make. Unlike the Greens they accept the Cass Report so they have leverage there. Do they not use it or not.

Going to be interesting to see what happens at the Greens conference too.

Legal Cases – Green Women's Declaration

https://greenwomensdeclaration.uk/about-us/legal-cases

Omlettes · 26/08/2024 18:03

fromorbit · 26/08/2024 09:21

That article is important this is a major issue for one of our main parties. As the recent disaster faced by the Lib Dems over Natalie Bird proved these ideas are illegal. Women and men do exist. Saying they do isn't wrong.

So the Greens are going to have to face that reality soon as the Legal cases for Emma Bateman, and Dawn Furness are still incoming [gardening needed]:
https://greenwomensdeclaration.uk/about-us/legal-cases/

Sounds like Ali might have to go to court again.

As for a SEEN group. The reality based Greens are already organised within the Green Party Women and the Green Party Women's declaration, a bunch of people have been expelled or suspended, but others remain. Thousands of members voted for Shahrar as leader.

This is all going to have a political impact on the Greens soon or later if they keep losing cases and money. The next council elections are in May and they are going to need funds.

Also this issue is politically useful. The Tories will be defending a lot of seats so if they go after the greens for being sexist it could be a wedge. Labour also have choices to make. Unlike the Greens they accept the Cass Report so they have leverage there. Do they not use it or not.

Going to be interesting to see what happens at the Greens conference too.

Good post thank you.
If you are a member and going to the conference would you mind updating us?