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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Possible world wide ramifications of the Tickle v Giggle ruling.

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 23/08/2024 15:57

Here's an article that comes to a very depressing conclusion.

Australia has abolished womanhood - spiked (spiked-online.com)

"What ought to send a shiver down the spine of all right-thinking people is that this ruling could have huge ramifications for those in other countries across the globe. The Convention to Eliminate All forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) is an international treaty adopted in 1979 by the UN. It is an agreement that recognises the specific needs of women. Giggle’s defence argued that Australia’s ratification of CEDAW obliges the state to protect women’s rights, including single-sex spaces. That Justice Bromwich rejected this will have ramifications for the 186 countries that have ratified CEDAW, as judges across the world look to landmark rulings like this to inform domestic decisions."

Australia has abolished womanhood

Tickle vs Giggle has placed the delusions of trans activists over biological reality and women’s hard-won rights.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/08/23/australia-has-abolished-womanhood/

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SquirrelSoShiny · 25/08/2024 19:37

Chersfrozenface · 25/08/2024 10:50

The rise of right-wing and far-right parties in Western countries is not largely due to encroachment of transgender activism on women's sex-based rights, but to a pivot to right-wing populism that is not really related to safeguarding women's rights.

Pawel Zerka, senior policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations, specifically mentioned "gender" as one of the factors responsible for the centre left losing ground to the right in the recent European Parliament elections.

This sadly is confirmation of my own instinct.

It's fashionable for metro elitists to sneer at 'Barry the Gammon' and his missus and all the other Barrys out there but guess what? Barry may not have a uni degree but he doesn't fucking need one to know that the Emperor is bollock naked and that a woman can't have a penis. The folk who traditionally voted for the left have been abandoned by the left. Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Motorina · 25/08/2024 19:46

Mr Menno is the best.

duc748 · 26/08/2024 12:04

StealthSpinach · 25/08/2024 10:46

Along with the Tasmanian law and clarification from the Sex Discrimination Commissioner, this is a horrific blow to women in Australia - legally, females cannot hold events, meetings, activities, or have spaces, venues or request anything that is female-only.

“Female” in Australia means female sex and transgender identity are considered EXACTLY the same. GI trumps sex, as TW cannot be excluded.
Lesbians cannot hold events or socials for biological females only.
Women cannot have spaces exclusively for biological females only.
There is no way to request biologically female medical personnel.
There is no way to have change rooms, toilets, showers, etc exclusively for biological females.

In Australia, transgender people can basically self identify and change their legal sex (in Queensland, they can legally change it every 12 months!).
Children can change their birth certificates, birth certificates can be issued without a sex marker at all, and parents can change their children’s birth certificates.
Schools must affirm, and as soon as a child (of any age - primary or secondary) decides they are the opposite sex, they are permitted into the change rooms, showers, toilets, accommodations, etc of the opposite sex.

If I had a daughter, I would feel exactly as Sall does about the world her daughter is facing as she grows up.
I despair of the world my ASD child will find themselves in - and who will seek to indoctrinate him into the corruption of GI, as it is in schools, support providers, laws, sports, etc. It is insanity, and I don’t know how we will keep our children or ourselves as females safe.

Sall is just so brave.

Only found this thread after I came across Mr Menno's always on point vid on FB. That's a couple of the most chilling paragraphs I've read in a long time, @StealthSpinach . This is the end-game. This is what they want. And why they can't be allowed to win. I would be despairing if I was an Aussie.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 26/08/2024 17:59

I’m hoping the FWS hearing at the U.K. Supreme Court will cast some more light on the importance of the meaning of key words. At some point I am hoping a senior court will state the bloody obvious that biological sex is a thing and that sometimes it really really matters.

If we are lucky it could have a Cass like impact where the grown ups start driving the narrative again based on facts.

Omlettes · 26/08/2024 18:14

@TheywontletmehavethenameIwant
Watching all the interviews Sall has done since, I am as cautiously optimistic as she is.
As she has said multiple times she expected to lose this one because it was the letter of the law being judged, despite the law being an ass in this instance.

As to the fine of $AUS 10,000, she ruefully admitted on Glinner that was down to the fact that she laughed outloud in court at seeing a photo of him...

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 26/08/2024 18:24

Omlettes · 26/08/2024 18:14

@TheywontletmehavethenameIwant
Watching all the interviews Sall has done since, I am as cautiously optimistic as she is.
As she has said multiple times she expected to lose this one because it was the letter of the law being judged, despite the law being an ass in this instance.

As to the fine of $AUS 10,000, she ruefully admitted on Glinner that was down to the fact that she laughed outloud in court at seeing a photo of him...

Me too, hopefully with all the publicity that's been generated and the fact that she comes over very well in all the interviews I've seen, round 2 will go a different way.

Because the ruling might have implications for an international treaty, maybe the government will take an interest and start realising how much legislation they've passed is batshit crazy.

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