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RIP Samantha Holden

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ArabellaScott · 22/08/2024 11:37

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvy0lyl7p8o

Here is the headline as it is now.

The BBC had initially published 'Murdered Farnborough sex worker found dead by her son'. There was an outcry and they changed it. When will they learn?

Thinking of this woman and her family. Flowers

Ms Holden's family issued a statement describing her as a “kind and beautiful soul who will be forever loved”

A smiling woman with blonde hair and a white top

Murdered Farnborough mum found dead by son, court hears

Samantha Holden's partially clothed body was found on her living room floor by by her teenage son, a jury is told.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvy0lyl7p8o

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/08/2024 11:46

That's horrific.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 22/08/2024 11:53

The BBC will never learn, they're misogynistic apologists for predators to their core. They need to stop getting public funding for this crap. Never any thought to the victim, the son's endured enough without that headline. They changed it, but only when people complained, they didn't have the decency to realise how awful it was in the first place.

What a horrible story, so terrible. RIP Samantha and I hope her son has support around him.

DoopSnoggySnogg · 22/08/2024 11:57

Oh my god. How can anyone support sex work as work? It has to stop. I’m actually crying for that poor boy finding his lovely mum like that. So so angry and sad.

The BBC disgust me.

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 22/08/2024 12:14

I saw this yesterday and was raging at the absolute disrespect of that headline. The BBC are a fucking disgrace.

Helleofabore · 22/08/2024 12:19

Thanks Arabella, I too was horrified by the headline. I am glad that they changed it.

DeanElderberry · 22/08/2024 12:29

Poor Samantha.

At the time of the Ipswich murders I argued for days (repetitively, boringly) on the BBC news discussion boards for them to report that 'a woman (who worked as a prostitute) has been killed' rather than 'a prostitute has been killed' - for many reasons, but including the fact that it would be far more likely for the murderer to escalate and diversify into killing women who didn't work as prostitutes than to escalate and diversify into killing 'prostitutes' who were not women.

That was back in the days when the existence of women was recognised and there was a word to describe us. Removing that word from us has eroded our protection in so many ways.

NasiDagang · 22/08/2024 12:29

DoopSnoggySnogg · 22/08/2024 11:57

Oh my god. How can anyone support sex work as work? It has to stop. I’m actually crying for that poor boy finding his lovely mum like that. So so angry and sad.

The BBC disgust me.

Stop paying for them! Whinging about the BBC is not going change things.

DoopSnoggySnogg · 22/08/2024 12:57

NasiDagang · 22/08/2024 12:29

Stop paying for them! Whinging about the BBC is not going change things.

I stopped paying my licence fee last year as I don’t watch any live TV or any BBC programmes whatsoever. My DH goes to his brother’s/dad’s to watch things like the Euros. I’m glad I’m no longer helping fund them.

Eldrick47s · 22/08/2024 13:10

Poor woman. RIP.

Her son seeing his mum like that. Unimaginable. Heart goes out to him.

SaintHonoria · 22/08/2024 13:25

Richard McCann is inspirational. His mother was murdered and he has campaigned against the press and their description of his mother as being a sex worker and other victims being described that way as it meant the public at the time had less sympathy for the victims.

He has also asked for the press to refer to Peter Sutcliffe by his name rather than the awful use of 'The Yorkshire Ripper' which conjures up unimaginable horror foe the victims families.

Grammarnut · 22/08/2024 14:51

The article still calls her a 'sex worker', as though it's just like being a shop worker, rather than a poor woman who was exploited.

Dumbo12 · 22/08/2024 15:00

The reporting is vile, as always when women and sex are used in the same sentence by msm. The age of the victim of this murder is yet another piece of evidence that "sex work" is exploitation imo

ArabellaScott · 22/08/2024 15:33

SaintHonoria · 22/08/2024 13:25

Richard McCann is inspirational. His mother was murdered and he has campaigned against the press and their description of his mother as being a sex worker and other victims being described that way as it meant the public at the time had less sympathy for the victims.

He has also asked for the press to refer to Peter Sutcliffe by his name rather than the awful use of 'The Yorkshire Ripper' which conjures up unimaginable horror foe the victims families.

Thanks. What a brave man.

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NitroNine · 23/08/2024 11:41

The poor lad tried to resuscitate his mother when he found her - doing CPR on anyone is incredibly distressing; to do it on your parent, especially after discovering them clearly having been assaulted… I hope he’s receiving lots of support.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 23/08/2024 22:57

I stopped paying my TV licence at least 5 years ago (I think) - one of the best things I ever did. I'm not paying for the BBC's support of predators and harm to victims.

biscuitandcake · 24/08/2024 09:30

Did he even go to prison for the previous "incident" (a violent attack on another woman). The article doesn't even say whether he did or not just "She rejected his sexual advances and fell unconscious when he subsequently hit her and put his hand around her neck, the court heard.
When she awoke, her leggings and underwear were down to her knees, according to facts agreed by the prosecution and defence barristers."

The fact it wasn't recorded as "he had served time in prison for..." makes me think no. But I really hope that's just the BBCs shoddy reporting and its not the case that the courts let someone who had admitted to beating/strangling a woman unconscious so he could assault her walk free to murder another woman.

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