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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pink News misgenders Sam Smith

81 replies

Eminybob · 14/08/2024 18:08

Calls SS they in the body of post, but look carefully at the byline 🤣🤣

Oh dear Pink News. Looks like you do know what a man is after all.

www.thepinknews.com/2024/08/14/no-sam-smith-hasnt-come-out-as-semibisexual/

OP posts:
Chersfrozenface · 15/08/2024 08:35

Tooting33 · 15/08/2024 08:07

From that wiki definition, does it mean attracted to both sexes but only
either
stereotypically feminine women and cross dressing men
or
Butch women and butch men?

Or are they using gender as a synonym for sex, in which case they just mean straight or gay.

If only they would use words to clarify not confuse!

Their problem - one of many - is that 'bisexual' is the the B in LGBT+. But 'bisexual' was coined after 'heterosexual' and 'homosexual' when sexual attraction was universally understood to be based on biological sex

Now attraction is supposed to be based on gender not biological sex, but there's no such word as 'bigenderal' - or not yet

Lots of people use just 'bi'. Perhaps they need to dump 'semibisexual' and stick with 'semibi'.

(Which takes us back to Eric the Half a Bee.)

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 15/08/2024 08:53

So really anythingsexual should be unacceptable.

But with an apparently infinite number of genders, what do you do? If everyone ends up being ‘queer’ then is queer the new straight?

AlisonDonut · 15/08/2024 09:31

Oh dear.

They need to cancel themselves.

MeAgainAndAgain · 15/08/2024 09:42

They’ve still not changed it.

BraveFacesEveryone · 15/08/2024 09:52

I’d seen this and assumed it meant that semibisexuals were attracted to both sexes but only one gender eg attracted to biological men and women, but only men and trans men or women and trans women as it were in terms of gender presentation. It took a lot of mental gymnastics to get there, and I did immediately assume that it was a genuine article because in these modern times that level of detail, overthought and specificity seems the done thing.

ErrolTheDragon · 15/08/2024 10:05

BraveFacesEveryone · 15/08/2024 09:52

I’d seen this and assumed it meant that semibisexuals were attracted to both sexes but only one gender eg attracted to biological men and women, but only men and trans men or women and trans women as it were in terms of gender presentation. It took a lot of mental gymnastics to get there, and I did immediately assume that it was a genuine article because in these modern times that level of detail, overthought and specificity seems the done thing.

It sounds like a theoretically real category which in practice (as the article I read said) doesn't actually have many people in it. Which male 'lesbians' should have a think about.

A term made up to label someone who is bisexual but homogenderal isn't helpful if it's not clear wtf it means though, as is the case with many neologisms (real or fake)

Aroastdinnerisnotahumanright · 15/08/2024 10:49

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 15/08/2024 08:53

So really anythingsexual should be unacceptable.

But with an apparently infinite number of genders, what do you do? If everyone ends up being ‘queer’ then is queer the new straight?

Queer definitely seems to be the new straight among the younger generation. I remember when it was a slur but language evolves I suppose.

Chersfrozenface · 15/08/2024 10:53

Aroastdinnerisnotahumanright · 15/08/2024 10:49

Queer definitely seems to be the new straight among the younger generation. I remember when it was a slur but language evolves I suppose.

Very soon straight will be the edgy, cool thing to be, once almost everyone is queer.

ChaChaChooey · 15/08/2024 11:38

Thesquarerootofnotgivingafuck · 14/08/2024 18:27

Someone needs to check on little Owen Jones. He will not be ok.

I can’t remember who it was now but a few days ago one of the Talk TV presenters called Owen Jones ‘a prisoner of his own stupidity’.

WickedSerious · 15/08/2024 12:46

ChaChaChooey · 15/08/2024 11:38

I can’t remember who it was now but a few days ago one of the Talk TV presenters called Owen Jones ‘a prisoner of his own stupidity’.

Aye and there's no possibility of an early release for good behaviour.

SwanRonsen · 15/08/2024 15:02

I really enjoyed Greg Jenner misgendering the very publicly bepenised pianist Jordan Gray on his "You're dead to me" podcast on LGBTQ+ life on Germany. All the way through he keeps up the shes and hers until the very end when Greg says "let's see what he's learnt" before the quiz and it really tickled me.
You know, Greg. We all know. Deep down even you know.

misscockerspaniel · 16/08/2024 11:07

The obfuscation of language. I took semibisexual to mean a gay or straight man who is only attracted to other males, or a lesbian or straight woman who is only attracted to other females.

ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2024 11:20

misscockerspaniel · 16/08/2024 11:07

The obfuscation of language. I took semibisexual to mean a gay or straight man who is only attracted to other males, or a lesbian or straight woman who is only attracted to other females.

Now that really does make no sense.Confused

misscockerspaniel · 16/08/2024 11:31

ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2024 11:20

Now that really does make no sense.Confused

Scratch the straight bit - that doesn't make sense 😀

Bisexual - attracted to both sexes. So semi bisexual - attracted to one sex. A politically correct way for a gay man to indicate not interested in transmen or for a lesbian to say not interested in transwomen.

ChaChaChooey · 16/08/2024 17:59

misscockerspaniel · 16/08/2024 11:31

Scratch the straight bit - that doesn't make sense 😀

Bisexual - attracted to both sexes. So semi bisexual - attracted to one sex. A politically correct way for a gay man to indicate not interested in transmen or for a lesbian to say not interested in transwomen.

I got what you meant!

If ‘halfbisexual’ was a thing it would essentially mean the same thing as ‘monosexual’ - which is applicable to anyone attracted only to one of the two sexes whether that be a homo or hetero attraction is lesbians, gay men and straights male or female.

I’ve clearly read too much Queer Theory as I seem to be able to understand crazy PoMo nonsense (albeit more as a foreign language than a mother tongue).

ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2024 19:22

Bisexual - attracted to both sexes. So semi bisexual - attracted to one sex.

There's already a word for that, homosexual.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 16/08/2024 19:31

ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2024 19:22

Bisexual - attracted to both sexes. So semi bisexual - attracted to one sex.

There's already a word for that, homosexual.

Or heterosexual.

SidewaysOtter · 16/08/2024 23:33

WickedSerious · 15/08/2024 12:46

Aye and there's no possibility of an early release for good behaviour.

I believe it’s a life sentence.

As for

"semibisexual is someone who is bisexual but is attracted to only one gender."

What in name of all types of holy fuck does that mean? Because it seems to read as “Straight as a fucking die but wants to be seen as “interesting”, in the face of all evidence to the contrary.”

LittleTalkingMan · 16/08/2024 23:40

Still not been changed! Oh the shame!

Boiledbeetle · 16/08/2024 23:55

LittleTalkingMan · 16/08/2024 23:40

Still not been changed! Oh the shame!

I suspect we are the only people clicking on the article! And none of us are about to demand it be changed 😁

00BonneMaman00 · 17/08/2024 10:50

Frumpyfrau · 15/08/2024 04:42

Literal violence! 😱 But does that mean bisexual on Mondays and Wednesdays? Oh wait, there’s no such thing as bisexual, because that would mean only two sexes! 😱😱

Right?!

TempestTost · 17/08/2024 23:24

Frumpyfrau · 15/08/2024 04:42

Literal violence! 😱 But does that mean bisexual on Mondays and Wednesdays? Oh wait, there’s no such thing as bisexual, because that would mean only two sexes! 😱😱

I took it to mean gay but might shag Jennifer Lawrence in a pinch.

Saschka · 17/08/2024 23:32

DontStopMe · 14/08/2024 18:26

Surely 'semi' is half, and 'bi' is two, so semi-bi- must be monosexual?

That is the joke. It is mocking people who claim to be bisexual when they are actually straight.

I’m not sure how widespread a phenomenon that really is, whereas bisexual erasure is definitely a real problem.

recurringcovid · 17/08/2024 23:35

Thesquarerootofnotgivingafuck · 14/08/2024 18:27

Someone needs to check on little Owen Jones. He will not be ok.

I read this in my head automatically in the task masters voice and cackled 😂

SidewaysOtter · 18/08/2024 09:27

I’m not sure how widespread a phenomenon that really is, whereas bisexual erasure is definitely a real problem.

That’s the thing, isn’t it? The “I wanna be in the queer glitter family” brigade, calling themselves bi when they’re not, does harm to those who genuinely are bi - people will just think they’re making it up to be “special”.

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