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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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XChrome · 13/08/2024 23:42

The sheer arrogance of a person who cheats blaming the people being cheated is all the evidence we need that this person is not a woman.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 13/08/2024 23:53

XChrome · 13/08/2024 23:42

The sheer arrogance of a person who cheats blaming the people being cheated is all the evidence we need that this person is not a woman.

I've seen women parrot similar lines recently.

Although it can align with sex, it feels reflective of social attitudes.

XChrome · 14/08/2024 00:26

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 13/08/2024 23:53

I've seen women parrot similar lines recently.

Although it can align with sex, it feels reflective of social attitudes.

I should have been clear that I was not being serious. I know women say stupid things like that too.

annejumps · 14/08/2024 00:33

What a dick.

Helleofabore · 14/08/2024 06:11

Wims, just try harder.

Operation: Let them speak!

Zita60 · 14/08/2024 06:49

The video clip of him speaking on that page is infuriating. He believes that because he’s become weaker after transitioning, he is now the same as women and doesn’t have any advantage. He claims those who oppose him playing in women’s golf isn’t because of him having any advantage, it’s just because we “don’t like trans people”.

The cyclist Emily Bridges said something similar, insisting that he had become weaker after transitioning, without realising that he was still stronger than women and therefore had an unfair advantage.

Either they genuinely don’t recognise the advantage they still have, or they don’t want to believe it.

Renee Richards, a transwoman who played professional women’s tennis in the 70s, when he was in his early 40s, later came to realise that he had an advantage.

Richards has since expressed ambivalence about her legacy, and came to believe her past as a man provided her with advantages over her competitors, saying "Having lived for the past 30 years, I know if I'd had surgery at the age of 22, and then at 24 went on the tour, no genetic woman in the world would have been able to come close to me. And so I've reconsidered my opinion."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards#Tennis_career_after_transitioning

JoanOfMarch · 14/08/2024 07:32

This person is 100% a dick.

ArabellaScott · 14/08/2024 07:42

Comments have the measure of the situation.

Let.them.speak, indeed.

BruceAndNosh · 14/08/2024 07:45

There is a massive distance advantage for male bodied golfers. I've played with a female Professional, ranked within the top 100 in the world, and she didn't drive the ball as far as my 59 year old husband (who has never been in a gym in his life)

Runskiyoga · 14/08/2024 07:49

When in my late 40s I have occasionally played sport with young men, there are some of them who frequently and earnestly - and with increasing frustration - give me tips and instructions about how to move faster/hit stronger/jump higher without seeming to have any awareness that sex and age differences exist. I often wonder if they will get it more as they age. Maybe they just don't know.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 14/08/2024 07:53

Professional victims. Preferring not to see any advantage they have as it undermines their narrative, battling through against the odds and oh so brave. And stunning, natch.

Itdistractsfromthenow · 14/08/2024 07:54

This is the standard gaslighting from gender ideologues though.

My personal favorite was when a young female athlete in a tv studio debate was describing the advantage male athletes have, and a woman in the audience piped up ‘ Have you tried confidence?’

These people are thick. Really thick. They try to refute all the sporting data we have since records began by insisting ‘ women just haven’t being trying hard enough’.

TW though try hard enough from the go, the wee troopers. That’s why they beat women, obvs.

MugPlate · 14/08/2024 07:59

Runskiyoga · 14/08/2024 07:49

When in my late 40s I have occasionally played sport with young men, there are some of them who frequently and earnestly - and with increasing frustration - give me tips and instructions about how to move faster/hit stronger/jump higher without seeming to have any awareness that sex and age differences exist. I often wonder if they will get it more as they age. Maybe they just don't know.

I’m inclined to think they simply don’t know, because at what point will they have competed against women, and at what point will the physical differences have been pointed out?
Anyone stating that women are weaker than men opens themselves up to complaints of discrimination.

ATowerOfGiraffes · 14/08/2024 08:37

Someone shared this on another thread and I thought it was very well put together. A short video from WRN that highlights (for cyclist Pippa York) the same point that those above have commented on - just because you become weaker after transitioning, it doesn't mean you don't still have an advantage.

(Search WRN Pippa York if you don't trust links)

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Igmum · 14/08/2024 08:59

He's an absolute knob. So pleased they changed the rules. We need to keep sports single sex

Thelnebriati · 14/08/2024 09:32

If this holds for sports it also holds for DV. Women aren't being beaten because they don't fight back hard enough, not in sports and not elsewhere. Its a terrible argument and it shouldn't have been published.

CocoapuffPuff · 14/08/2024 10:48

It's amazing how hard these people work to try to convince the world they're just weak wee girlies.
If they actually worked as hard on their sporting technique, perhaps they wouldn't be mediocre......

TempestTost · 14/08/2024 10:49

Runskiyoga · 14/08/2024 07:49

When in my late 40s I have occasionally played sport with young men, there are some of them who frequently and earnestly - and with increasing frustration - give me tips and instructions about how to move faster/hit stronger/jump higher without seeming to have any awareness that sex and age differences exist. I often wonder if they will get it more as they age. Maybe they just don't know.

I think we are much less physical in most work now. Including daily work.

And it's still considered sexist to talk about women's performance in sports being significantly different.

Plus, films.

SamW98 · 14/08/2024 10:50

Maybe ‘Hailey’ should have tried harder to be a better male golfer then so they wouldn’t have to cheat by beating women.

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TempestTost · 14/08/2024 10:54

I always think about that idiot DEI woman in the US at the congressional hearing talking about Serena Williams.

This is a highly educated person.

I couldn't find a clip without a commentary but this one starts pretty much right away.)

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