Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scotland has ended self referral to gender identity services.

7 replies

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 13/08/2024 13:25

Now must be referred by a clinician.

At last some sense. Hopefully those in greatest need will get seen more quickly rather than the waiting list being clogged with trans trenders.

news.stv.tv/scotland/scotland-ends-self-referral-for-gender-identity-services

Wonder how the greens are taking it? 🤭

OP posts:
ArabellaScott · 13/08/2024 13:39

NHS Scotland inching towards their senses.

Thesquarerootofnotgivingafuck · 13/08/2024 17:31

Inching? I'd say it's more glacial, but a step in the right direction.

Chrysanthemum5 · 13/08/2024 18:18

This line from the BBC report is ridiculous:

The Cass Review was published in April by paediatrician Dr Hilary Cass, and called for gender services for young people to match the standards of other NHS care.

Surely it should be obvious that care for young people should be the same standard as other NHS care. It's insane that children have been let down by poor quality of care and oversight

FunnyLady27 · 14/08/2024 06:55

One consultant said: (and he wished to remain anonymous) “The Sandyford has always prided themselves on the ability of patients to self-refer so they are not forced to ‘out’ themselves to a stranger or a family doctor who might know their parents or [mean they] face a negative reaction. Most people will wonder why they are adding this new barrier to these desperate youth merely trying to be their true selves. And went on to say……..

”“What is most important is that the needs of this highly vulnerable group are appropriately met and if the Sandyford is unable to do this, perhaps the Scottish government need to look at funding a functioning service” And in another article in the Times highlighting the absolutely true need for mental health services for young people , this just completely distracts and re directs funding to a made up problem in the majority of cases!
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/hundreds-of-suicides-at-traumatising-nhs-mental-health-hospitals-jnlgk7qm7

Hundreds of suicides at ‘traumatising’ NHS mental health hospitals

Rats, sewage leaks and lack of staff leave patients feeling alone and frightened on prison-like wards, campaigners say

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/hundreds-of-suicides-at-traumatising-nhs-mental-health-hospitals-jnlgk7qm7

ArabellaScott · 14/08/2024 07:28

Chrysanthemum5 · 13/08/2024 18:18

This line from the BBC report is ridiculous:

The Cass Review was published in April by paediatrician Dr Hilary Cass, and called for gender services for young people to match the standards of other NHS care.

Surely it should be obvious that care for young people should be the same standard as other NHS care. It's insane that children have been let down by poor quality of care and oversight

Yes, but the situation has got so mad I think the whole.pount of Cass was to go back to first principles.

Similar with so much of genderism - it's been a mass cultural gish gallop of rainbow fallacies that have overturned and skewed so many standards.

So we have to go back to freedom of speech - of thought, even, to get past 'no debate', before we can even start to discuss things.

And we have to have 'do no harm' and 'healthcare should be evidence based' re established.

Just as we've had to re establish 'there are only two sexes', the absolutely bleeding obvious has to be reproven before we even begin to counter gender bollocks.

It's what's so terrifying about the whole situation, in my view. It really has been a partially successful 'queering' of society, aided by post modernist moral equivalency, of upending all of our accepted rules.and standards, and it's resulted in children being harmed and abused, as it always would if anyone ever gave queer theory ten seconds of thought.

Societies rules protect the vulnerable - 'queering' them will obviously adversely impact the vulnerable first.

And I'm afraid I think that for some people, that was at least part of the attraction.

NeverDropYourMorayCup · 14/08/2024 09:01

Personally I think there will need to be a statuary public enquiry into NHS gender care for adults and children in coming years. Whatever your views on gender dysphoria/ gender questioning behaviour, there clearly has been a terrible medical failure to use evidence based medicine and inappropriate involvement of public pressure groups & too much weight out on vulnerable patients to make life changing, unevidenced medical decisions.

ArabellaScott · 14/08/2024 09:05

They are reviewing the service. In fact, I'll make a post because there's some new news, I think.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread