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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The oceans are queer now.

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HidingBehindTheWallpaper · 10/08/2024 12:43

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001q0sk?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

Potentially interesting program made tedious by being told about how all these interesting creatures and habitats are like being queer.

It’s getting like thought for the day, ‘this thing is a bit like Jesus’ now it’s ’this thing is like being queer’.

Animal - Shapeshifters - BBC Sounds

Fluid, noisy, flouting the rules. Blair Braverman discovers that the ocean is queer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001q0sk?origin=share-mobile&partner=uk.co.bbc

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Thelnebriati · 10/08/2024 12:50

It’s getting like thought for the day, ‘this thing is a bit like Jesus’ 🤣
Who was it used to do that in a sketch show?

ApocalipstickNow · 10/08/2024 12:52

The Fast Show did a sketch with waiters who said things like “the white wine is a crisp, dry Sauvignon and the red? The red is the blood of our saviour..” might be that?

HoppityBun · 10/08/2024 12:55

ApocalipstickNow · 10/08/2024 12:52

The Fast Show did a sketch with waiters who said things like “the white wine is a crisp, dry Sauvignon and the red? The red is the blood of our saviour..” might be that?

Donkeys years before that. Alan Bennett in Beyond the Fringe: “Life is rather like a tin of sardines. And we’re all of us looking for the key.”

Snowypeaks · 10/08/2024 13:23

Was it Harry Enfield?

ApocalipstickNow · 10/08/2024 13:33

Here was also Pause For Thought For The Day on This Morning With Richard Not Judy and I’m done derailing now 😂 sorry everyone.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 10/08/2024 13:46

Omg I've come across 'queer ecology' as a thing and it sounds like the biggest load of bollocks ever, for several reasons:

It's projecting an anthropomorphised idea of human relationships into animals and trying to label them as 'queer' when they then don't fit that human 'norm' - when they're being completely normal for them.

Virtually all animals have sex to reproduce. That's it. So trying to map human ideas of relationships and the variety thereof onto them makes no sense.

'Normal' has a specific, mathematical meaning when describing a population, it's not pejorative, it just describes a dataset where most cluster around the middle. Most animals do x or y thing, it's normal. Some don't. This is interesting. It's not 'queer'.

Ffs.

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 10/08/2024 14:06

I heard this in the car this morning.
I swear I could hear all the Radio 4 listeners switching off.
Never had a contemplated the ocean as a queer space.
I have now contemplated it and decided that's a load of queer bollocks.

quantumbutterfly · 10/08/2024 14:12

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 10/08/2024 13:46

Omg I've come across 'queer ecology' as a thing and it sounds like the biggest load of bollocks ever, for several reasons:

It's projecting an anthropomorphised idea of human relationships into animals and trying to label them as 'queer' when they then don't fit that human 'norm' - when they're being completely normal for them.

Virtually all animals have sex to reproduce. That's it. So trying to map human ideas of relationships and the variety thereof onto them makes no sense.

'Normal' has a specific, mathematical meaning when describing a population, it's not pejorative, it just describes a dataset where most cluster around the middle. Most animals do x or y thing, it's normal. Some don't. This is interesting. It's not 'queer'.

Ffs.

Absolutely.
Normal is defined by your population. (That's why I hang out here😁)

quantumbutterfly · 10/08/2024 14:14

I prefer the phrase ' more than a couple of standard deviations from the mean', but I don't think it's very catchy.😂

LightDrizzle · 10/08/2024 14:20

I had to switch Radio 4 off, something normally only prompted by I’m Sorry I Haven’t A Clue.

It wasn’t like just the oceans being like queer spaces? It was, like, the relentless use of rising question intonation at the end of, like, sentences? Also the repeated use of the word “like”?

I started feeling murderous and shouted at Alexa to stop.

MissEsmeWatson · 10/08/2024 14:56

This is a bit like bullshit.

lcakethereforeIam · 10/08/2024 15:06

I think Billy Connolly had something, I just remember the punchline was something 'and in a way he was right'. The Big Yin was being funny, it sounds like this was supposed to be taken seriously?

MikeBBBB · 10/08/2024 16:58

Snowypeaks · 10/08/2024 13:23

Was it Harry Enfield?

No it was Mark Steele. It was his only funny joke

HidingBehindTheWallpaper · 10/08/2024 17:00

There was a Fast Show character who would say ‘and that’s a little bit like Jesus’.

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MikeBBBB · 10/08/2024 17:17

I was listening to R4 today and when I heard that the "ocean is a queer space" I burst out laughing. These people are nuts.

Snowypeaks · 10/08/2024 17:32

HidingBehindTheWallpaper · 10/08/2024 17:00

There was a Fast Show character who would say ‘and that’s a little bit like Jesus’.

Yes, that sounds familiar. Cool vicar tells unrelated story then adds ‘and that’s a little bit like Jesus’. Was that it?

Bananalanacake · 10/08/2024 17:38

Is this to do with all ships being 'she' maybe they are gender neutral now.

quantumbutterfly · 10/08/2024 17:41

what pronouns is the sea using these days?

ApocalipstickNow · 10/08/2024 17:49

I’m sorry I know I said I’d stop.

The oceans are queer now.
borntobequiet · 10/08/2024 18:00

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 10/08/2024 14:06

I heard this in the car this morning.
I swear I could hear all the Radio 4 listeners switching off.
Never had a contemplated the ocean as a queer space.
I have now contemplated it and decided that's a load of queer bollocks.

You heard me then.

Snowypeaks · 10/08/2024 18:06

hellotowel · 10/08/2024 14:33

That paper is called:
The first case of homosexual necrophilia in the mallard Anas platyrhynchos (Aves:Anatidae)

And that is what it is about. A male mallard rapes the corpse of another male mallard. Continuously, for 75 minutes.
NAMallardsALT

nonmerci99 · 10/08/2024 18:10

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 10/08/2024 13:46

Omg I've come across 'queer ecology' as a thing and it sounds like the biggest load of bollocks ever, for several reasons:

It's projecting an anthropomorphised idea of human relationships into animals and trying to label them as 'queer' when they then don't fit that human 'norm' - when they're being completely normal for them.

Virtually all animals have sex to reproduce. That's it. So trying to map human ideas of relationships and the variety thereof onto them makes no sense.

'Normal' has a specific, mathematical meaning when describing a population, it's not pejorative, it just describes a dataset where most cluster around the middle. Most animals do x or y thing, it's normal. Some don't. This is interesting. It's not 'queer'.

Ffs.

But slapping “queer” in front of academic disciplines opens thousands of new dissertation topics, so more money for unis and more worthless PhDs 😄

Plasmodesmata · 10/08/2024 18:14

Haven't listened.
But - are there clownfish?
Nemo's law is a thing.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 10/08/2024 18:38

The sea always make me feel queasy, is that the same thing. 🤮