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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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missmardypants · 08/08/2024 18:49

Sorry for the short and terse post, I'm a bit fed up with this one side only argument from the BBC.

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Pekkala · 08/08/2024 18:50

Yep I saw that and reported it as 'misleading/incorrect' ( or whatever the option was )

JellySaurus · 08/08/2024 18:55

GP surgery follows correct protocols by declining to treat something they have no training in and instead offering to refer the patient to the appropriate service.

And this is news?

Rather like those articles about a woman who gets pregnant, where it's only news because the woman has short hair and wants to be referred to by masculine pronouns.

And yes this male person is not being prescribed HRT, this person is being prescribed cross-sex hormones.

Rightsraptor · 08/08/2024 19:31

And why would non-binary people even want to take any sex hormones? They think they don't have a sex. It makes no sense.

ChaChaChooey · 08/08/2024 20:28

I’m a boring old peri menopausal female in my late 40s and my GP declined to prescribe HRT without specialist supervision due to family cancer history (even though I’ve been tested for my mother’s BRCA gene fault and definitely haven’t inherited it).

it was a 2 year and 4 month wait from referral to a telephone appointment with an NHS Consultant Gynaecologist working at the regional menopause clinic (yes, 28 months! And yes I started to wonder if I would’ve finished menopause before I saw anyone!) but I wouldn’t want my GP to ever feel coerced to prescribe outside of her competency, for both my physical safety and her professional good standing.

As it happens that two year wait ended with a five minute call (on a Sunday morning!) and me being discharged back into my GPs care with a recommendation letter for HRT (actual HRT, to replace the actual hormones my body once produced plenty of) so it was a massive long wait for what be the shortest specialist appointment on record.

Nonetheless the only part of this system that I have complaint with is the the lack of menopause clinic capacity for the almost entirely predictable numbers of women reaching menopausal age each year - which., save for a little immi and emi gration has been mostly forseeable for nigh on 50 years, unlike trans identity, which has had a weird social-contagion driven spike followed by a continuous but more gradual rise.

Also, gynaecologists and specialist nurses should theoretically be easier to recruit than gender transition staff because gynaecology is taught in medical school and has a recognised pathway to specialism,

Whereas fuck knows what GIC staff are qualified in - a mish mash of eccentric psychiatrists and naive clinical psychologists (who leave as quickly as possible) and a two tier diagnosis and ‘treatment’ system that allows the psychs to blame the endocrinologists and surgeons and the endocrinologists and surgeons to blame the psychs (and everyone to point at WPATH) when the ‘treatment’ does nothing to improve the patient’s long term quality of life whilst destroying their fertility, sexual function and increasing their risk of stroke, heart attack and cancer.

No wonder loads of GPs want nothing to do with it.

Toseland · 08/08/2024 20:37

Smug, unpleasant person who believes the world should revolve around them as they are so fucking special.

RandySavage · 08/08/2024 20:58

If I was a GP and a ‘non-binary’ patient started asking me for treatment I too would pretend ignorance. I’d be telling them to go somewhere with ‘experts’.

Who needs the hassle of the special people and their special demands? And all the time just a step away from a ‘misgendering’ or some other microaggression that could lead to all kinds of trouble.

Topofthemountain · 08/08/2024 21:00

NEON been earning their keep again..

The NHS can't be expected to treat / deal with everything, and some things have more priority. This is one of those things that don't.

Topofthemountain · 08/08/2024 21:09

And why do they never choose 'normal' names instead going for twee Disney / fairytale names? If you wanted to blend in* you would go for similar names as your peers, such as Chloe, Jessica, or Olivia,.

*Be the woman you always were (or something)

StainlessSteelMouse · 08/08/2024 22:52

It works the other way too. When I hear about some bloke called Felix or Cameron I assume it's a female with a special identity. They're never called Jim or Gary or Ted.

ArabellaScott · 08/08/2024 23:07

"It's the first time I don't feel a barrier between myself and others in making meaningful relationships where I'm not hiding who I am,"

Maaaate.

Fenlandia · 08/08/2024 23:14

"Trans and non-binary people can choose to take HRT to help them develop the secondary sex characteristics of the gender they identify with."

Gibberish. And I thought gender was nothing to do with bodies.

Justme56 · 08/08/2024 23:26

I think the person who wrote this is also trans (late transition) so imagine some bias in the reporting.

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