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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS to open detrans clinic

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fromorbit · 08/08/2024 10:10

Amazing news:

NHS to launch first service for trans patients wanting to return to birth gender
Cass Review found children were being hurried down pathways involving powerful drugs and medical interventions

NHS officials said the next step was to “define an NHS pathway for those individuals who choose to detransition” because currently no guidance on how to care for them exists.
The health service said: “There is no defined clinical pathway in the NHS for individuals who are considering detransition. NHS England will establish a programme of work to explore the issues around a detransition pathway by October 2024.”
It said this would include examining the rate at which patients detransition and their reasons for doing so, as these are currently unknown, and would recognise “that individuals who choose to detransition may not wish to re-engage with the services they were previously under” as per the recommendations.

Dr Cass said a lack of long-term data made it impossible to know how frequently people detransitioned, although anecdotally it was “increasing”.
The lack of long-term evidence was also why the review said puberty blockers should not be prescribed outside of a clinical trial.
That trial is now set to begin from early 2025, the NHS confirmed, with the first patients enrolled from April next year.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/07/trans-first-service-detransition-cass-review-birth-gender/

NHS to launch first service for trans patients wanting to return to birth gender

Cass Review made recommendations including providing care for people who had changed their minds after transitioning

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/07/trans-first-service-detransition-cass-review-birth-gender

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Igmum · 08/08/2024 18:02

Such good news about the clinic. Detransitioners are treated appallingly in the current healthcare (if we can call it that) regime. I agree, for most the transition itself should never have happened. Here's hoping the whole system changes to prioritise good mental and physical health.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/08/2024 19:01

JellySaurus · 08/08/2024 17:28

Have a look at what this detransitioner has to say about herself and her experiences. A young woman who was allowed to make irreversible decisions about procedures that would cause permanent, harmful changes to her body - while she was still too young to legally buy cigarettes. I wonder why cigarettes are are-restricted? Could it be anything to do with the fact that they can cause permanent, harmful changes to the smoker's body?

^For Hineman, the whole project of gender identity was “kind of like a punk thing,” she says. But rather than sex, drugs, and rock and roll, it was just drugs. And surgery. “It’s a medicalized version of normal teen rebellion. And I got completely sucked into that.”

Occasionally people assume she’s male, but she’s made a conscious decision to shrug it off because getting “emotionally bogged down about being misgendered” is what led to transition in the first place, she tells me. “I had the realization that I can’t continue to let this bother me in any direction.”

Anna also looks back with bafflement that her depression and other medical factors didn’t give providers pause. “I was lost. I was hurting. I was a fucked-up teen who needed help,” she told me.

she wants young people like herself, their parents, and the providers who are pushing ideology over good care to know that there are safe and humane ways to address the kind of distress she suffered. “The answers are not just transition or suicide. There are ways to work through these feelings without altering your body,” she says.^

https://www.thefp.com/p/how-did-planned-parenthood-become?r=615mx&triedRedirect=true

Such terrible stories. High time the growing number of detransitioners voices were heard and their needs met.
The removal of adults with a vested interest in transitioning children from being able to influence child health & psychological care can't come soon enough. Cass clearly outlined the pressures from self interested trans lobbyists and groups and it's a relief to see that the new government is taking an evidence based, informed and safeguarding children centred approach.

lcakethereforeIam · 13/08/2024 22:21

Richie Herron in the Telegraph, also contributions by Stella O'Malley

https://archive.ph/wDw0D so easy to bypass paywalls, other walls though...not so much

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/13/regret-transgender-surgery-nhs-detransition-service/

What he's been through, what he's still suffering seem absolutely horrific. We need a Cass for the adult gender making it up as they go along service.

‘Doctors refused to let me admit my transition was a mistake. Now I want to reverse it’

As the NHS commits to help people reverse gender-altering surgery, we talk to one patient who says it can’t happen soon enough

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/13/regret-transgender-surgery-nhs-detransition-service

TempestTost · 13/08/2024 22:52

It's good that the needs of these people are being acknowledged and understood. And maybe some good research could come out of it.

But I worry that detransition could come to be seen as just another valid medical choice, so not really challenging the bad medicine that leads to the need for it.

spannasaurus · 13/08/2024 22:57

I've seen detransitioning referred to as just another step in a person's transition journey

fromorbit · 14/08/2024 09:20

spannasaurus · 13/08/2024 22:57

I've seen detransitioning referred to as just another step in a person's transition journey

Yes that is one way the genderists increasingly spin it.

To be fair many detrans people use the concept too. The reality is so awful who can blame them.

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 14/08/2024 09:35

fromorbit · 14/08/2024 09:20

Yes that is one way the genderists increasingly spin it.

To be fair many detrans people use the concept too. The reality is so awful who can blame them.

Psychologically, for some people, that probably is how it seems. But not all. And each medical step causes more physical damage. So cheerily encouraging people to take more and more medical steps, to transition physically to one gender, then detransition back to another, transition on to a third... is dangerous. It's a "journey" to nowhere. People need help to figure out where they are and what is healthiest where they are.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 14/08/2024 23:44

Createanewname · 08/08/2024 12:45

Also healthcare doesn't generally cause patients harm or necessitate expensive lifelong follow up unless it's a question of life or death. I dont see why gender surgery is offered on the NHS tbh when something like IVF is often not.

Exactly. It’s the only NHS treatment I’ve heard of that is actually intended to damage the patient’s body. In all other cases, mastectomies, amputations etc are intended to prevent worse physical harm, eg from cancer.

FrancescaContini · 15/08/2024 11:40

spannasaurus · 13/08/2024 22:57

I've seen detransitioning referred to as just another step in a person's transition journey

Where does this journey end?!

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