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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kamala Harris introduced free trans surgery for inmates

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qwerty14 · 31/07/2024 13:01

I did not realise that Kamala Harris was the first to introduce the policy of trans surgery for prisoners in California in 2015. The policy was rolled out across the States after that and is funded by taxpayers.
It is worrying that Harris is obviously such a commited trans advocate should she become President there will obviously be a doubling down on transgender surgeries. The prisoner that she helped was a murderer so there was no accounting for the severity of the crime that they had commited.The inmate that she helped Shiloe Quinne was then housed in a woman's prison once the surgery was completed.

The Washington post reported:
Quine was arrested and charged with robbery, kidnapping and murder in 1980, after they and an accomplice killed 33-year-old Shahid Ali Baig, a father of three, in downtown Los Angeles, the AP reported.
Baig’s daughter, who fought Quine’s request in court, said knowing that taxpayers funded surgery for her father’s killer was “a slap in the face.”
“My dad begged for his life,” Farida Baig told the AP. “It just made me dizzy and sick. I’m helping pay for his surgery; I live in California.”

https://x.com/i/status/1818364626515681345

www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/01/10/a-transgender-inmate-became-first-to-get-state-funded-surgery-advocates-say-fight-is-far-from-over/

x.com

https://x.com/i/status/1818364626515681345

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eatfigs · 31/07/2024 13:05

If these males want to get their knackers lopped off then fine, go ahead. But this should never grant them access to women's prisons, nor should anything else.

protectourchildren · 31/07/2024 13:09

I hope Baig's daughter speaks out in the run up to the election. It's unconscionable and gives the lie to the Democrats pretending to care about women's rights.

happydappy2 · 31/07/2024 13:20

KHs sister is embroiled in big Pharma/surgeries/hormones etc....there is a LOT of money to be made here....Pritzker is also backing her, she's sold her soul....

Mischance · 31/07/2024 13:21

It's crap - but I still think she is a safer bet than Trump.

dottiehens · 31/07/2024 13:28

Do not worry she is mostly disliked and will not win. It is all exaggerated by Dems to give her a push. She is very unpopular and this kind of thing about trans is precisely why she is not going to win. Plus the borders mess. She called for squatters rights too and that is mortal sin to mess with in the US. As it should be.

Radionowhere · 31/07/2024 13:30

happydappy2 · 31/07/2024 13:20

KHs sister is embroiled in big Pharma/surgeries/hormones etc....there is a LOT of money to be made here....Pritzker is also backing her, she's sold her soul....

Ah. Of course. Always about the money.

MK19590 · 31/07/2024 13:32

If she's offering to chop the bollocks off "trans women" aka MEN who are in women's prisons, I wonder how many would actually take her up on the offer?

Sdpbody · 31/07/2024 14:07

You give the left and inch and they take a bloody mile.

TempestTost · 31/07/2024 14:18

I am a little surprised anyone would be surprised that she is wholly on board with all the standard Democrat ideologies.

Snowypeaks · 31/07/2024 14:52

TempestTost · 31/07/2024 14:18

I am a little surprised anyone would be surprised that she is wholly on board with all the standard Democrat ideologies.

Isn't that going above and beyond, though? Especially dating from 2015. But I am not very au fait with US politics.

Edited to get the year right.

TempestTost · 31/07/2024 15:57

Snowypeaks · 31/07/2024 14:52

Isn't that going above and beyond, though? Especially dating from 2015. But I am not very au fait with US politics.

Edited to get the year right.

Edited

I don't really think so. If she believes it's appropriate healthcare I would think she would believe prisoners should have access to I. Just like other healthcare.

nauticant · 31/07/2024 16:00

Also check out Harris's stepdaughter. She's a committed trans activist. Harris considers the relationship she built up with her stepdaughter as being a major achievement in her life. Even if Harris was minded to think critically and seek balance, she will know that this would damage a relationship she values hugely.

Britinme · 31/07/2024 21:55

dottiehens · 31/07/2024 13:28

Do not worry she is mostly disliked and will not win. It is all exaggerated by Dems to give her a push. She is very unpopular and this kind of thing about trans is precisely why she is not going to win. Plus the borders mess. She called for squatters rights too and that is mortal sin to mess with in the US. As it should be.

Edited

This post seems wildly inaccurate to me and certainly doesn't reflect what I'm hearing and seeing. I do disagree with Harris's attitude to trans issues, but frankly I'd vote for a yellow dog before I'd vote for Trump. I think many of the further left (by American standards) attitudes she has expressed earlier have been or will be greatly modified by the challenges of a campaign and the challenges of actually governing. I think she will win.

On squatters rights, I think you may be referring to something from 2012 in California when she was attorney general, which doesn't actually refer to what most people would think of as squatters rights. Of course I may be wrong if you know something more specific. https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-kamala-d-harris-announces-bill-curb-blight-signed-law.

On border issues remember that the impeachment attempt is actually directed at Alejandro Mayorkas, who was the office actually responsible for the border.

dottiehens · 01/08/2024 19:50

Britinme · 31/07/2024 21:55

This post seems wildly inaccurate to me and certainly doesn't reflect what I'm hearing and seeing. I do disagree with Harris's attitude to trans issues, but frankly I'd vote for a yellow dog before I'd vote for Trump. I think many of the further left (by American standards) attitudes she has expressed earlier have been or will be greatly modified by the challenges of a campaign and the challenges of actually governing. I think she will win.

On squatters rights, I think you may be referring to something from 2012 in California when she was attorney general, which doesn't actually refer to what most people would think of as squatters rights. Of course I may be wrong if you know something more specific. https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-kamala-d-harris-announces-bill-curb-blight-signed-law.

On border issues remember that the impeachment attempt is actually directed at Alejandro Mayorkas, who was the office actually responsible for the border.

The people who would vote for anybody but Trump yes I get it they would vote for her. However, 28 percent popularity in ratings for Kamala Harris as a VP during the last four years made me believe she is not getting in due to the states that are crucial not backing her on November. The borders are on Biden”s government in general. They are blamed for it but mainly Biden and Kamala. What I see if all the media that also hates Trump and celebrities with a push for donations and making a big fuss for the campaign. This has temporarily inflated her popularity. However, this is just for Democrats who did not like Biden and are now happier with her. Where the difference matters is to be seen.

MoveToParis · 01/08/2024 19:57

I would be interested to know the distribution of surgery by type/ sex of prisoner and whether they are in a men’s women’s prison before and after surgery. Also whether their conviction is for a violent and/or sexual offence, and what how these numbers compare to the general population and trans prisoners who do not avail of the tax payer funded facial feminisations; breast implants etc.

Britinme · 01/08/2024 20:00

I guess you're right that we'll all find out in November, assuming that the lackeys Trump has installed at local levels that might affect certification of results don't get to do their thing, but that will depend on Harris getting a very large majority of the popular vote. I think it's misleading to look at her popularity statistics as VP - I think it's more important to look at what they are now, which is currently on some polls ahead of Trump already. And given that Trump seems to be making a hash of many of his interviews (did you see the one he did to the NABJ?) I think that may continue.

What I'm hoping for is that, now we can all turn our attention away from how old Biden is, the media will actually allow some focus on things his administration has actually achieved. Illegal border crossings are lower now than they were earlier in this administration. One of the great difficulties of that, of course, is the difficulty in funding CBP adequately, which is largely the work of Congress failing to do their job.

TempestTost · 02/08/2024 01:14

It's also a matter of can she convince the right people to vote for her - the ones that need to switch over to win a state.

TempestTost · 02/08/2024 01:15

I've just learned today that she also announced her candidacy on RuPaul, so I think maybe there is not much doubt where she stands on this stuff.

The thing is, a lot of the voters she needs are really fed up with all that stuff.

Omlettes · 04/08/2024 08:19

Britinme · 01/08/2024 20:00

I guess you're right that we'll all find out in November, assuming that the lackeys Trump has installed at local levels that might affect certification of results don't get to do their thing, but that will depend on Harris getting a very large majority of the popular vote. I think it's misleading to look at her popularity statistics as VP - I think it's more important to look at what they are now, which is currently on some polls ahead of Trump already. And given that Trump seems to be making a hash of many of his interviews (did you see the one he did to the NABJ?) I think that may continue.

What I'm hoping for is that, now we can all turn our attention away from how old Biden is, the media will actually allow some focus on things his administration has actually achieved. Illegal border crossings are lower now than they were earlier in this administration. One of the great difficulties of that, of course, is the difficulty in funding CBP adequately, which is largely the work of Congress failing to do their job.

Whats the popular vote got to do with it, Hilary won 3million more than Trump on the popular vote.
It was the Electoral College

Britinme · 04/08/2024 11:32

@Omlettes I'm well aware that it's the Electoral College, and that the Trump campaign wants to exploit that system as they did in 2016. But in 2020 Biden got 7 million more popular votes than Trump, which enabled him to get 306 EC votes to Trump's 232. The peculiarities of our system don't outweigh a landslide.

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