LGBT TUC conference vote to condemn Cass Report

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A motion brought by UCU [no surprise]. This happened on the same day that that the challenge to stop puberty blockers in the High Court utterly failed. Got a long way to go to recapture the trade unions.

Article from the UCU who are more medical experiments on kids:
https://ucucommons.org/2024/07/29/british-trade-unions-oppose-the-cass-report-heres-why-that-matters/?

Apparently this is a moment for "intergenerational education" because the people who support Cass are uneducated old fogies who don't know any better. They need to listen more to the lived experience of trans people. But on no account should anyone listen to the "lived experience" of actual women. Indeed the fact that this motion was passed PROVES that women's rights are not under threat. I despair

Post modernism and the 'queering' of everything welcomes the dismantling of previously accepted systems and processes used to ensure objectivity is achieved. They insist that these structures are oppressive and only serve those who have traditionally held power. This narrative is cat nip to the unions.

It's not rocket science to see how the scientific method has been abused in order to maintain oppression. It's not the method that's the problem but the abuse of it.

Within wider society, evidence will continue to trump opinion. Those arguing that the evidence of the Cass review lacks validity because it doesn't include the opinion of TRAs will never hold muster. The echo chambers that sustain this belief are getting smaller

Ironically, the Cass review utilises rigour in order to protect a very vulnerable minority.

I used to belong to the AUT (predecessor to UCU) and left because it was absolutely useless. Every time there was a vote for the National Executive at least half the candidates would start their spiel in the election booklet 'I belong to UCU Left ...' and what followed was generally a long diatribe about boycotting Israel and so on. I belonged to a union because I wanted support in the event of any problems at work and I wanted them to negotiate better salaries, pension and working conditions for the membership. I made a point of voting for candidates who focussed on that, and the UCU Left bloc were automatically discounted for that reason.

From what I hear about trades unions these days they seem to be stuck in the same mindset that the Corbynites and Momentum had in Labour before the 2019 election. They don't want a broad membership and a focus on practical, achievable goals. They want only the ideologically pure and they are never happier than when they're passing motions of condemnation about areas that are nothing to do with them.

For UCU in particular to be telling the world that Professor Hilary Cass's report is substandard is just gutting. University lecturers and researchers with no clue about medical research and ethics.

Frankly I hope they go bust and then employees could start again and create new apolitical unions that actually do what the unions were set up to do in the first place.

But this isn’t the whole union. This is just the LGBT bit of the Union?

So all this tells us is that LGBT groups are doubling down on rejecting any evidence that goes against their narrative. Which I think we knew anyway.

Like Helen Joyce says, gender ideologues need trans kids to exist as otherwise their whole narrative falls down.
They also need immediate, unquestioned affirmation to exist as otherwise males can’t enter women’s spaces on demand.

Cass challenges all of that.

To paraphrase that famous phase, ‘when the evidence changes what do you do? Reject the evidence!’

Thankfully a SEEN for unions has been established.

Is this SEEN network available in Scottish public sector unions? There was a depressing post on our work internal Comms last week about the importance of "gender identities" and I've been told that outside unions aren't recognised yet the two big ones we use are not supportive of those who wish to uphold the importance of sex discrimination. I don't really want to join either of them but I'm feeling it might be worth it as there's a lot of change coming.

Edited to remove names incase too outing where I work

Oh FFS. I'm a member. Seriously reconsidering this now.

This the LGBT conference of the Trade Union Congress which is the joint body of most UK trade unions. So way bigger than just one union. So from here it is very possible they will take a similar motion to the TUC as a whole at the National Conference which would be interesting.

So this is not insignificant, but it also is a potential mistake on the TAs side because denial of Cass is a dead end- legally and scientifically. It is defying Starmer's Labour and that as we have seen is not a great move. Having an actual debate in the TUC outside the LGBT conference on Cass could lead to a defeat just as it did in pushing that line in the wider Labour party.

As you say they are sort of locked in if they keep doubling down on attacking Cass they will keep losing. Which could discredit a bunch of other stuff. So very much worth keeping an eye on.

Trade Union SEEN is UK wide.
https://x.com/tu_seen

Nobody connected to this motion is remotely qualified to reject Dr Cass's report, they need to get over themselves, they ain't that special. 😒

the Cass Report’s warnings about “exponentially” increasing numbers of trans young people (2024: 72) mirrors anti-fat discourse, as well as fatphobic panic about rising ‘obesity’ as an impending threat to the future.

Obviously some top branes at work here. The unions are so captured that it's looking like they'd be the last to recant. Just when they are needed as much as ever.

It is remarkable that they think they can deny that there has been this exponential increase. Because it is very easy to be shown to be true.

Are they seriously denying that there has been a massive rise in the numbers of young people who believe they are trans, or in people who are overweight?

The long and painful decline of the trade union movement into irrelevancy continues apace. Was not quite expecting that trend to be hastened by its own members though.Still, every other institution in the country seems to be captured by the Kool aid gang so why not?

They aren't denying it's happening, they are denying it's an issue.

In the TRAverse it's a generally accepted "fact" that Cass is totally discredited, that sex is a colonial construct on the natural gender spectrum and that the only reason trans kids are not happy is the intolerance of others.