Paris Olympics - opening ceremony

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I hardly need to say which demographic was pushed to the forefront of this, right? I don't think I've ever seen the view that 'cross-dressing men are the very best of us [and most obviously of all better than the boring old type of woman]' being pushed quite so hard?

It made me appreciate just how good the British ceremony was. This was such a wasted opportunity. Paris is a beautiful city and France has such an incredible cultural history to draw on. What about the beautiful paintings of an artist like Monet, Manet, Pisarro, Toulouse Lautrec ( sp ) being celebrated? The fabulous fashion designers?

Celine Dionne was fantastic but there are great French singers that could have been show cased. Lara Fabian for example.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bIIL5p7_WKk

They've had to issue a non apology

x.com/iocmedia/status/1817579554367823876?s=48&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Plainly they did intend to mock the last supper. They're only sorry it caused a diplomatic incident.

I thought that mocking the last supper (even if the resemblance was unintentional, I don’t believe no one spotted it in any rehearsals - it’s a bloody famous painting!) was awful. I don’t like drag, but even if it hadn’t been drag queens doing the mocking, it would still have been wrong in my book.

I don’t think religion should be exempt from mockery, and in a world with free speech, we should be able to joke about religion. It’s not poking fun at religion in and of itself that was bad for me (even combined with drag queens doing the mocking). But for me, the Olympics is about the world coming together, symbolically setting aside political or religious differences for the purposes of this competition.

While France is secular, and many formerly Christian majority countries are no longer as religious, there are plenty of people around the world for whom Christianity is important.

The opening ceremony, with the eyes of the world watching, should be about finding common ground or sharing the culture or history of the host country in order to welcome the world… it’s not a time for divisive satire or alienating huge swathes of the worlds population. Mock religion, fine, but the olympics is not the time or place.

It made me appreciate just how good the British ceremony was. This was such a wasted opportunity. Paris is a beautiful city and France has such an incredible cultural history to draw on. What about the beautiful paintings of an artist like Monet, Manet, Pisarro, Toulouse Lautrec ( sp ) being celebrated? The fabulous fashion designers? p

Celine Dionne was fantastic but there are great French singers that could have been show cased. Lara Fabian for example.

Sorry posted twice by mistake!

Me too.

It's just as bad as black face and worse than most things that get criticised as cultural appropriation.

It should be just as unacceptable as these things.

The idea that someone could have reached the giddy heights of orchestrating an Olympics ceremony and somehow doesn't see part of it mock the last supper lacks any and all credibility. They intended to cause widespread offence but were so up themselves, they didn't reckon on the backlash. Tough tits. FAFO.

As I said where were all the female transvestites dressed up as men? They were non existent.. The men wouldn't have the piss taken out of the by us sub species...

The other glaring issue was the one child in among the allegedly not last supper. And the man with his bollock hanging out. But yeah, "copyright" is why the ICO tried to stop all the images on X. Like we didn't all see what we saw. It's risible.

Yes the young child right in amongst the male transvestites.. Why are they trying to normalise this? And on the global stage?

Because that's a large part of this movement, isn't it?

Grooming.

As I keep saying where were all the woman transvestites dressed as males?? Why weren't they front & centre? The aim was to humiliate & demean women.

It’s not a time for divisive satire or alienating huge swathes of the worlds population.

In that Fox business link about a Misssissippi tech company pulling out its ads because of the drag Last Supper the designer says,

"Our idea was inclusion," Jolly said during an International Olympic Committee media briefing. "Naturally, when we want to include everyone and not exclude anyone, questions are raised.

It is so ridiculous. I note their version of the Last Supper excludes women and people with disabilities.

Also questions might have been raised because it was sex drag, woman parody being teamed with the Last Supper.

Personally thought it was the worst Olympic Opening Ceremony ever, not a surprise that it's been deleted from YouTube.

American and Canadian singers, Italian artists and paintings, Finnish dance music, Spanish and American sports stars etc. Not a lot of French stuff. And I doubt drag has much of a history in France (happy to stand corrected though).

Spent ages watching the flame go up the river with the Assassin's Creed character (who was never unmasked) and spent ages watching the flame go down the river with non-French sports stars.

"Inclusive" - all drag includes is men who hate women. That's it. (How much of a thing are drag kings? How effective a parody of men are they?) They're the performers and the target audience, regardless of sexual orientation. Oh, and by including children in their performance I'd say there's another subset of men they're appealing to, no?

I don’t know if he meant it the way it sounds, perhaps not, but this in the screen shot is the designer who says they are so inclusive, speaking.

In France we are allowed to love who we want, how we want.

Yeah, Foucault would have said much the same.

The 'demonic' thing going round on twitter seems very american and reminds me of Harry Potter being rounded on for witchcraft. I didn't think it was "demonic" whatever that even means, it was sometimes naff, sometimes brilliant and sometimes just rather tedious.

The child is probably a 'drag kid' I'm afraid. Which means, yes, they are being inappropriately sexualised.

I presume the fat woman in blue with the headdress is supposed to be Ariadne with her constellation crown.
I mostly thought about the drag bit how naff the dancing had suddenly become compared to other sections.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-13677879/An-Olympic-balls-Eagle-eyed-viewers-spot-performers-TESTICLE-hanging-opening-ceremony-Paris-2024-dancer-suffers-x-rated-wardrobe-malfunction.html?ito=social-facebook_Australia&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2ERzpxztpgtQYvaK2cvZFbrGXUUnHcfhkD65E-qvpGLxNfTcx-Gt-2gSA_aem_8Gvw-yQtunJ8LCurT4_bIg

The child was right beside the barechested man in tights & knickers with a full face of make up who suffered the unfortunate "wardrobe malfunction"...
I hope safeguarding investigate why the child was placed in that environment. It was absolutely not an appointment place for a child to be.

Not to be picky but the minions were created and voiced by a Frenchman and the films are animated by a Paris-based studio. Ditto the Assasin’s Creed stuff - Ubisoft is a French company.

And I’m afraid you must have been imagining the “loads of British dance music” . I didn’t hear any and a quick look at the official playlist here doesn’t show any either: www.sortiraparis.com/en/news/olympic-games-paris-2024/articles/317447-paris-2024-olympics-the-playlist-broadcast-during-the-opening-ceremony

They were showing how French people had influenced arts, science etc around the world in ways that the rest of us may not be aware of. No issues with that. Valid choice.

What has tripped them up is being so stingy with information. Perhaps assuming that the rest of the world knows more than we do? The BBC commentators actually said that they had had very little information in advance. Serious error by the organisers. Without explanation, too many items seemed random.
I was irritated, first time around, and so not inclined to just go with it.

I think what tripped them up was the pushing of the woke agenda at a time when the tide is turning against wokeness.. Personally I am gleeful as it will wake the whole world up as to what is being pushed down our throats. The backlash is spectacular, it has backfired very badly for all involved. Hilarious that they have had to remove footage from their official site & issue an apology.

The world was not prepared to buy the tomfoolery they were trying to peddle 🤣