Puberty Blockers Question at PMQs

[CaveMum]

First PMQs for Sir Keir Starmer.

Second question was from Nadia Whittome saying how worried she was about the puberty blocker ban and asking the PM to meet with trans families and organisations supporting them.

His response was to say the most important thing was the children and that the Cass Review was clear that there was scant evidence on their long term use. He said he would arrange for her to meet Wes Streeting to discuss.

She did not look happy and was shaking her head.

Progress? Perhaps.

BBC Live reporting has skipped over the question altogether and only covering Rishi Sunak’s questions at the moment.

Goodness, that seems sensible.

@CaveMum I bet they have.

Well, keir's response was superb. Perfect.

I cannot understand these politicians and why they are so set on this. Are they incapable of looking at evidence - not just the evidence available but the SOURCE of that evidence. That's what gets me! Look at who advised Stonewall, look at who funded the studies, look at the credentials of Hillary Cass, David Bell, az hakeem et al, really, what's the stumbling block here?

At least keir and wes are being sensible

Was I wrong to give a wry chuckle?

what an impressively sensible response from starmer!

I've not watched yet but good for him.

It does look as if Starmer and Streeting have decided they don't want to go down in history as the PM and Health Secretary who ignored the Cass Review.

Such a good response. Clear on position but open to discussing things, brilliant.

For those that haven’t seen it, I’m sure someone will clip it up on Twitter so will post a link when I see it.

I wonder if anyone in government will be going backwards and forwards with these people.

Wes: Other than your opinion, what evidence do you have that PBs are beneficial?

Oh, that report okay.

Next day: here is an analysis of that report, and as you can see, it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Next?

I'm sure it won't work like that. But, it would be annoying if it's because there's no time. Given how much fucking time has been wasted already.

A painstaking ticking off all the rebutted points would, in my opinion, put this stuff to bed a lot quicker.

And yes, I know, that is exactly what the cass report was for. But, predictably, there are still too many people dissing it.

It does look as if Starmer and Streeting have decided they don't want to go down in history as the PM and Health Secretary who ignored the Cass Review.

That's sort of the view I've been coming to. Which makes me think, yet again, that for all of the chaos of the Tory government, the Cass Review was an amazing parting gift.

If he can stick to this line, that's great. Just grey rock the activists. I hope he and Streeting don't cave to the pressure, which I'm sure will be immense.

And yes, I know, that is exactly what the cass report was for. But, predictably, there are still too many people dissing it.

None of them really seem to understand it, they've just bought into packaged TRA talking points, many of which have already been refuted, like "Cass required too high a standard of evidence that wouldn't be possible for this".

The thought of children being injected with irreversible drugs to take away their ability to reproduce, have full relationships in adulthood is terrifying. It's like a dystopian nightmare. Its happening in the States, 10 year old.
It's horrible
I fear for my grandchildren safety

Hopefully it means they can see the writing on the wall, despite the likes of Whittome etc.

They can see the lawsuits coming down the line and they don't want to be implicated in the scandal of what has been done to children.

The MP for Nottingham, where 40% of children under 16 live in families with a low income, where people have a lower life expectancy the rest of the country, where more than half the population live in the most deprived areas nationally, where infant mortality is higher than average…

this is what she considered to be the most pressing concern for the first Labour PMQs of the new government?

Thanks OP

I have written to my labour MP to ask them to pass my thanks and praise on to Mr Starmer for this sensible response. I know that plenty of TRAs will be writing in to decry the awfulness of sticking to the science, so I feel it's important that they get a balance of positive messages saying "well done"

Link to clip on Twitter: x.com/sorelle_arduino/status/1816072903143612529?s=46&t=vZsKCHJJ4lL6NrAoNyJFww

I really hope this is a first step of progress. This whole trans trend is, to my relief, going bust.

I agree. The marketing machine is still firing on all cylinders.

And because so many people have still drunk the Kool-Aid, or just don't know, I'd like to see the painstaking taking of each point and refuting it unequivocally.

And when people come back with bogus responses, just doing the same thing.

Basically, I want the government to be Mumsnet 😂

Yep. Thank god

The more meetings that are held, the better, in my opinion.

Once you're fully informed, as Streeting now appears to be, meetings can look very hollow, very quickly. Once you can no longer rely on emotional blackmailing, there's fuck all else.

Stand strong Starmer and Streeting!

Once you're fully informed, as Streeting now appears to be, meetings can look very hollow, very quickly. Once you can no longer rely on emotional blackmailing, there's fuck all else.

This. Just ignore the tantrums.